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Mr_Woogers
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Could it be that an under-the-table hire at Murray St. helps Dunn get SIU Presidency? If the E trustees weren't Dunn's buddies, the BOT could sue this turd for that severance pay!

https://thesouthern.com/news/local/siu/documents-challenge-former-siu-president-dunn-s-denial-of-another/article_2e5dff68-3667-553e-9528-09ad116a8f49.html#utm_source=thesouthern.com&utm_campaign=%2Femail-updates%2Fbreaking&utm_medium=PostUp&utm_content=5475405c7f654cb8b0ae27e5c506c6f48c116c1c


   
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Not really seeing the corruption and certainly not even approaching the scale of things that happen every day in public institutions.  If a fast track hire was made without the waiver (non-transparent) then you've got a story.  90+% of all important hires made by HR all over the company involve preferred candidates that no one has processed waiver paperwork for.

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Hiring Dunn was a monumental mistake by SIU and cost them dearly.  Hind sight is 20/20, but this guy is a turd and should be labeled as toxic for any other institution that may consider hiring him.


   
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Hiring Dunn was a monumental mistake by SIU and cost them dearly.  Hind sight is 20/20, but this guy is a turd and should be labeled as toxic for any other institution that may consider hiring him.

How many upper level folks have we churned thru SIU over the last 30 years that this doesn't apply to?

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Not really seeing the corruption and certainly not even approaching the scale of things that happen every day in public institutions.  If a fast track hire was made without the waiver (non-transparent) then you've got a story.  90+% of all important hires made by HR all over the company involve preferred candidates that no one has processed waiver paperwork for.

Evidently your corruption detector is not working.

When you create a position specifically to hire a person and skip the normal search channels required by a university ... and that person happens to be the son of the Chairman of the SIU BOT and then you happen to get hired by the SIU BOT as the new President of SIU, that's corruption. There was nothing transparent about this. Guarantee that "waiver" wasn't advertised.

"Dunn’s office .. created Manering’s position within the Institute for International Studies, and simultaneously handpicked Manering to fill it."


   
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Not really seeing the corruption and certainly not even approaching the scale of things that happen every day in public institutions.  If a fast track hire was made without the waiver (non-transparent) then you've got a story.  90+% of all important hires made by HR all over the company involve preferred candidates that no one has processed waiver paperwork for.

Evidently your corruption detector is not working.

When you create a position specifically to hire a person and skip the normal search channels required by a university ... and that person happens to be the son of the Chairman of the SIU BOT and then you happen to get hired by the SIU BOT as the new President of SIU, that's corruption. There was nothing transparent about this. Guarantee that "waiver" wasn't advertised.

"Dunn’s office .. created Manering’s position within the Institute for International Studies, and simultaneously handpicked Manering to fill it."

I'm not approving of whatever occurred, but most public high level hires and almost all professional hires nowadays are corrupt as shit.  Call it "preferred candidate", "diversity candidate", etc. etc. the days of the best person getting a job is long over with.  I would wager every super high level appointment made at SIU over the last 20 years has been just like what you brought up in this post.  Just substitute "connected to Madigan", good ole boy looking for public pension #5, etc. etc.

My corruption meter is just fine.  Those waivers exist to admit sunlight to what are typically shady evolutions.  Did someone hide this waiver from FOIA?

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Posted by: Mr_Woogers
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Not really seeing the corruption and certainly not even approaching the scale of things that happen every day in public institutions.  If a fast track hire was made without the waiver (non-transparent) then you've got a story.  90+% of all important hires made by HR all over the company involve preferred candidates that no one has processed waiver paperwork for.

Evidently your corruption detector is not working.

When you create a position specifically to hire a person and skip the normal search channels required by a university ... and that person happens to be the son of the Chairman of the SIU BOT and then you happen to get hired by the SIU BOT as the new President of SIU, that's corruption. There was nothing transparent about this. Guarantee that "waiver" wasn't advertised.

"Dunn’s office .. created Manering’s position within the Institute for International Studies, and simultaneously handpicked Manering to fill it."

Dunn’s office .. created Manering’s position within the Institute for International Studies, and simultaneously handpicked Manering to fill it."

You do realize this process describes every new staff/adminstrative job added since 1990.  You don't actually think we needed to go on a hiring binge to counter falling enrollment? 

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Posted by: Morris Saluki
Posted by: Mr_Woogers
Posted by: Morris Saluki

Not really seeing the corruption and certainly not even approaching the scale of things that happen every day in public institutions.  If a fast track hire was made without the waiver (non-transparent) then you've got a story.  90+% of all important hires made by HR all over the company involve preferred candidates that no one has processed waiver paperwork for.

Evidently your corruption detector is not working.

When you create a position specifically to hire a person and skip the normal search channels required by a university ... and that person happens to be the son of the Chairman of the SIU BOT and then you happen to get hired by the SIU BOT as the new President of SIU, that's corruption. There was nothing transparent about this. Guarantee that "waiver" wasn't advertised.

"Dunn’s office .. created Manering’s position within the Institute for International Studies, and simultaneously handpicked Manering to fill it."

Dunn’s office .. created Manering’s position within the Institute for International Studies, and simultaneously handpicked Manering to fill it."

You do realize this process describes every new staff/adminstrative job added since 1990.  You don't actually think we needed to go on a hiring binge to counter falling enrollment? 

No it isn't. Staff jobs are civil service - different animal. Administrative hirings, except for the shady ones made by Dunn, are not normally done by bypassing the established search process so that a single  person can hire a crony. That is exactly why the state audit of Dunn jumped on his under-the-table hirings (of his buddy Colwell for example.)

Not sure what this has to do with enrollment. SIU did hire an enrollment manager last year - sorely needed - should have been done years ago.


   
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thank you mr. woogers for giving reasonsable, logical, and unemotional explanations.


   
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Posted by: Mr_Woogers
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Not really seeing the corruption and certainly not even approaching the scale of things that happen every day in public institutions.  If a fast track hire was made without the waiver (non-transparent) then you've got a story.  90+% of all important hires made by HR all over the company involve preferred candidates that no one has processed waiver paperwork for.

Evidently your corruption detector is not working.

When you create a position specifically to hire a person and skip the normal search channels required by a university ... and that person happens to be the son of the Chairman of the SIU BOT and then you happen to get hired by the SIU BOT as the new President of SIU, that's corruption. There was nothing transparent about this. Guarantee that "waiver" wasn't advertised.

"Dunn’s office .. created Manering’s position within the Institute for International Studies, and simultaneously handpicked Manering to fill it."

Dunn’s office .. created Manering’s position within the Institute for International Studies, and simultaneously handpicked Manering to fill it."

You do realize this process describes every new staff/adminstrative job added since 1990.  You don't actually think we needed to go on a hiring binge to counter falling enrollment? 

No it isn't. Staff jobs are civil service - different animal. Administrative hirings, except for the shady ones made by Dunn, are not normally done by bypassing the established search process so that a single  person can hire a crony. That is exactly why the state audit of Dunn jumped on his under-the-table hirings (of his buddy Colwell for example.)

Not sure what this has to do with enrollment. SIU did hire an enrollment manager last year - sorely needed - should have been done years ago.

On these civil service hirings are points or preferences given outside the realm of merit?  Do hirings take place where the "fix is in" from an HR standpoint and all but one applying for the job completely wasting their time?  I get what you are pointing out here but this is like a 400 pound man calling a 500 pounder "fat".

I'm sure the enrollment guy/gal was needed but what of the other "new" jobs?  A stat guy might notice that the faster staff/admin added to the payroll the quicker the enrollment drops.

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