Top tier teams don't want to come to Carbondale, but they may wish to come to St. Louis. When the students are on break may be a chance to have a holiday game.
Perhaps you missed the part about wanted a home game.
Don't patronize me. The fact that you are arguing a strawman shows you have nothing to stand on.
I am quite clearly saying they should set up series. Saying they have no choice but to play D2s is a cop-out and you know it.
To act like the choices are a D2 or a fucing MEAC and that alone in insultingly disingenuous.
I don't need to see a parade of D2 and MEAC games like we saw under BH but I don't mind seeing 1 a year. Don't think it's a bad thing to gain confidence early in the season and get some of the young guys some minutes. Even the best schools in the country play these games.
No, they objectively do not except for very very rarely.. Over the last two seasons with regular non conference schedules(2018-19 and 2019-20), teams from the AAC, ACC, Atlantic 10, Big East, Big Ten, Big XII, PAC 12, and SEC collectively played 12 total games against non-D1 schools, and 3 of those were against Chaminade in the Maui tournament.
Illinois:
2020 NC A&T, Chi. State
2019 Nicholls St., Citadel, Hampton
2018 Miss. Valley St.
Duke
2020 Coppin St., Bellarmine
2019 NW Miss. St., Ft Valley St.,
2018 Ferris St., Hartford, Virginia Union
Kansas
2020 Washburn, Omaha
2019 Ft. Hays, Pitt. St, Chaminade
2018 Emporia St, Washburn
Kentucky
2019 Georgetown College, Kentucky St., Mt. St. Marys
2018 Translyvania U., Indiana U. of Pa
blah
blah
blah
Don't patronize me. The fact that you are arguing a strawman shows you have nothing to stand on.
I am quite clearly saying they should set up series. Saying they have no choice but to play D2s is a cop-out and you know it.
To act like the choices are a D2 or a fucing MEAC and that alone in insultingly disingenuous.
I don't need to see a parade of D2 and MEAC games like we saw under BH but I don't mind seeing 1 a year. Don't think it's a bad thing to gain confidence early in the season and get some of the young guys some minutes. Even the best schools in the country play these games.
No, they objectively do not except for very very rarely.. Over the last two seasons with regular non conference schedules(2018-19 and 2019-20), teams from the AAC, ACC, Atlantic 10, Big East, Big Ten, Big XII, PAC 12, and SEC collectively played 12 total games against non-D1 schools, and 3 of those were against Chaminade in the Maui tournament.
Illinois:
2020 NC A&T, Chi. State
2019 Nicholls St., Citadel, Hampton
2018 Miss. Valley St.
Duke
2020 Coppin St., Bellarmine
2019 NW Miss. St., Ft Valley St.,
2018 Ferris St., Hartford, Virginia Union
Kansas
2020 Washburn, Omaha
2019 Ft. Hays, Pitt. St, Chaminade
2018 Emporia St, Washburn
Kentucky
2019 Georgetown College, Kentucky St., Mt. St. Marys
2018 Translyvania U., Indiana U. of Pa
blah
blah
blah
I'm fine with Southern having 2-3 games on the noncon schedule in which they're playing lesser competition (I would count certain regional opponents such as SEMO and SIU-E against that total) because there is a benefit to building some confidence and hopefully being able to experiment with rotations, but no more than that. One distinction with the list you provide above is those teams all have numerous opportunities in their conference (including at home) to grab marquee wins, whereas grabbing Quad 1/Quad 2 wins in the non-conference are especially critical for teams from the MVC and other non-"Power 6" leagues.
@siudawgs the only the Salukis get a top 100 win in non con is to schedule the right MTE and hope you get the right win and hope they do well in their conference because no top 100 is coming to Carbondale
@siudawgs the only the Salukis get a top 100 win in non con is to schedule the right MTE and hope you get the right win and hope they do well in their conference because no top 100 is coming to Carbondale
I’d say this is an overreach. Just take some of the current series SIU has: Saint Louis, Tulsa, Murray State, San Francisco. Catch one of those teams in the right year and that can be a top-100 win. It is possible to get decent midmajors to Carbondale with solid home-and-home series.
True, it’s quite rare for a power conference team to come to Carbondale, but you can take the occasional buy game: Butler last year could have been a top-100 W, but they had a down year.
Agree that multi-team events are fertile ground for these opportunities, which is why I’m so glad they’re in a good one this year for the first time in a long while, but to say that’s the only path to quality wins is not true.
Don't patronize me. The fact that you are arguing a strawman shows you have nothing to stand on.
I am quite clearly saying they should set up series. Saying they have no choice but to play D2s is a cop-out and you know it.
To act like the choices are a D2 or a fucing MEAC and that alone in insultingly disingenuous.
I don't need to see a parade of D2 and MEAC games like we saw under BH but I don't mind seeing 1 a year. Don't think it's a bad thing to gain confidence early in the season and get some of the young guys some minutes. Even the best schools in the country play these games.
No, they objectively do not except for very very rarely.. Over the last two seasons with regular non conference schedules(2018-19 and 2019-20), teams from the AAC, ACC, Atlantic 10, Big East, Big Ten, Big XII, PAC 12, and SEC collectively played 12 total games against non-D1 schools, and 3 of those were against Chaminade in the Maui tournament.
Illinois:
2020 NC A&T, Chi. State
2019 Nicholls St., Citadel, Hampton
2018 Miss. Valley St.
Duke
2020 Coppin St., Bellarmine
2019 NW Miss. St., Ft Valley St.,
2018 Ferris St., Hartford, Virginia Union
Kansas
2020 Washburn, Omaha
2019 Ft. Hays, Pitt. St, Chaminade
2018 Emporia St, Washburn
Kentucky
2019 Georgetown College, Kentucky St., Mt. St. Marys
2018 Translyvania U., Indiana U. of Pa
blah
blah
blah
Illinois:
NC A&T, Chi. State, Nicholls St., Citadel, Hampton, and Miss. Valley St. are all D1 schools.
Duke
Coppin St., Hartford, and Bellarmine are all D1 schools.
NW Miss. St., Ft Valley St., Ferris St., and Virginia Union were Exhibition games, not regular season games.
Kansas
Omaha is a D1 school.
Ft. Hays, Pitt. St, Emporia, and Washburn were exhibition games, not regular season games, Chaminade was played as part of the Maui tournament.
Kentucky
Mt. St. Marys is a D1 school.
Georgetown College, Kentucky St., Translyvania U., and Indiana U. of Pa were all Exhibition games, not regular season games.
So in all of your examples, there was 1 regular season game played against a non D1 school and it was as part of a tournament where they couldn't help their draw. They didn't schedule it.
Quite the swing and miss on your part.
Just go win 2-3 games in the Dance and scheduling will get a whole lot easier.
https://twitter.com/studurando/status/1410972227051327491?s=21
This was one of the bigger games on the schedule and the biggest home game so this is pretty disappointing
https://twitter.com/studurando/status/1410972227051327491?s=21
This was one of the bigger games on the schedule and the biggest home game so this is pretty disappointing
Agreed. Wonder what happened there.
Awwwwwww dammit. I was coming down for that and I think 69 was also.
@barkeep-1967 Hope Mullins can pull a rabbit out of a hat and get a quality replacement but at this late date doesn't seem likely
@barkeep-1967 Hope Mullins can pull a rabbit out of a hat and get a quality replacement but at this late date doesn't seem likely
Need something that was the only big home game really
https://twitter.com/studurando/status/1410972227051327491?s=21
This was one of the bigger games on the schedule and the biggest home game so this is pretty disappointingAgreed. Wonder what happened there.
Yeah, gosh, I wonder………..
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I see where SLU will be playing at Memphis this year, date to be determined. hmmm……
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We play at Tulsa this year.
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