I have 1 degree from SIU and two from SIUE. Schools are nothing a like. SIUE is a commuter school. SIU is a research institution. I cheer for both schools. I of course want SIU to destroy them every time they play SIUE in anything. SIUE only gets to exist because of our charter. But it serves the metro East very well. Lots of Nurses, accountant, teachers and engineers coming from there. Dentist and pharmacist too. A great percentage of kids that go there would have gone to UMSL or SLU really glad they exist.
If Nagy walked into a mess which is debatable who created the mess also if it was a mess could we have more facts not just an opinion and by the way I would rather have last year than this year
3 games in 72 hours tends to do that.This Valley final second half is pure old school offensive ugliness. First team to 50 wins?
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If Nagy walked into a mess which is debatable who created the mess also if it was a mess could we have more facts not just an opinion and by the way I would rather have last year than this year
So now Nagy created the mess? Ridiculous. I personally think Nagy did a good job under difficult circumstances and is a far better and wiser coach than his predecessor. If he can recruit, we will be tough in the next few years.
Last years team was painful to watch most of the time, SLU blowout excepted . If that team lost XJ 3rd game of the year, they would have been lucky to win 6-7 games. XJ was the only excitement in that group.
This years team was only sometimes painful to watch. Most of the time after the 0 - 5 MVC start, they were much more exciting. Compare that MVC tournament win over InSU to last year's loss to a bad UIC team.
Fraydog comes around only to spout doom-and-gloom. SIU-E is not more talented than Southern. Their strength of schedule is 339 out of 364 teams in D1.
Credit to them for going on a run in the OVC tournament, though. I was rooting for Korn to get SEMO there.
Agree. Barone has done a decent job there, but SEMO wasn't very good and won the weak OVC. E probably played their best game of the year.
OVC in recent years has lost East. Kent., Jacksonville St, Austin Peay, Murray St., and Belmont.
Any MVC team except Mo. State has a good chance of winning that league.
Style of play is not a mess again please point out what the mess wasIf Nagy walked into a mess which is debatable who created the mess also if it was a mess could we have more facts not just an opinion and by the way I would rather have last year than this year
So now Nagy created the mess? Ridiculous. I personally think Nagy did a good job under difficult circumstances and is a far better and wiser coach than his predecessor. If he can recruit, we will be tough in the next few years.
Last years team was painful to watch most of the time, SLU blowout excepted . If that team lost XJ 3rd game of the year, they would have been lucky to win 6-7 games. XJ was the only excitement in that group.
This years team was only sometimes painful to watch. Most of the time after the 0 - 5 MVC start, they were much more exciting. Compare that MVC tournament win over InSU to last year's loss to a bad UIC team.
Illinois State has accepted an invitation to the CBI, March 22-26.
Illinois State has accepted an invitation to the CBI, March 22-26.
I wonder if Chase Walker hits the portal before or after this
Style of play is not a mess again please point out what the mess wasIf Nagy walked into a mess which is debatable who created the mess also if it was a mess could we have more facts not just an opinion and by the way I would rather have last year than this year
So now Nagy created the mess? Ridiculous. I personally think Nagy did a good job under difficult circumstances and is a far better and wiser coach than his predecessor. If he can recruit, we will be tough in the next few years.
Last years team was painful to watch most of the time, SLU blowout excepted . If that team lost XJ 3rd game of the year, they would have been lucky to win 6-7 games. XJ was the only excitement in that group.
This years team was only sometimes painful to watch. Most of the time after the 0 - 5 MVC start, they were much more exciting. Compare that MVC tournament win over InSU to last year's loss to a bad UIC team.
How about 6 weeks to recruit a whole team late in the cycle. 10 guys from the previous year left. I think he got some darn good talent considering the situation.
Let's just be honest. You don't like Nagy or his demeanor. You think Mullins would have gotten us where we want to be, given another 5 years and 2.5 million bucks. You've taken every opportunity to dis the guy. It gets old.
If Nagy walked into a mess which is debatable who created the mess also if it was a mess could we have more facts not just an opinion and by the way I would rather have last year than this year
So now Nagy created the mess? Ridiculous. I personally think Nagy did a good job under difficult circumstances and is a far better and wiser coach than his predecessor. If he can recruit, we will be tough in the next few years.
Last years team was painful to watch most of the time, SLU blowout excepted . If that team lost XJ 3rd game of the year, they would have been lucky to win 6-7 games. XJ was the only excitement in that group.
This years team was only sometimes painful to watch. Most of the time after the 0 - 5 MVC start, they were much more exciting. Compare that MVC tournament win over InSU to last year's loss to a bad UIC team.
we are all thrilled with the 86-85 win over the 9th seeded sycamores. not sure it moves the needle much over the 84-82 double OT loss to the 11th seeded flames. but if there is some big comparison there for you, go ahead.
Bryan Mullins coaching this year was not gonna beat drake. Scott Nagy coaching the previous years was not gonna beat drake. neither bob knight nor Mr. woodcock coaching the salukis the past few years was gonna beat drake. but I am open to a knight vs woodcock comparison if it gets us off Mullins vs Nagy.
personally, I would rather have a beer with woodcock. but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Style of play is not a mess again please point out what the mess wasIf Nagy walked into a mess which is debatable who created the mess also if it was a mess could we have more facts not just an opinion and by the way I would rather have last year than this year
So now Nagy created the mess? Ridiculous. I personally think Nagy did a good job under difficult circumstances and is a far better and wiser coach than his predecessor. If he can recruit, we will be tough in the next few years.
Last years team was painful to watch most of the time, SLU blowout excepted . If that team lost XJ 3rd game of the year, they would have been lucky to win 6-7 games. XJ was the only excitement in that group.
This years team was only sometimes painful to watch. Most of the time after the 0 - 5 MVC start, they were much more exciting. Compare that MVC tournament win over InSU to last year's loss to a bad UIC team.
How about 6 weeks to recruit a whole team late in the cycle. 10 guys from the previous year left. I think he got some darn good talent considering the situation.
Let's just be honest. You don't like Nagy or his demeanor. You think Mullins would have gotten us where we want to be, given another 5 years and 2.5 million bucks. You've taken every opportunity to dis the guy. It gets old.
Or how about the previous regime not having a single recruit?
I am pretty sure I speak for everyone on this board when I say that I was really sad that Mullins didn't get is back to the Promised Land and was therefore let go. It absolutely sucked.
But the fact is he wasn't getting the job done that he was hired to do, and there were no signs that he was going to get it done. Sad but true.
(Inflammatory political snark)
Style of play is not a mess again please point out what the mess wasIf Nagy walked into a mess which is debatable who created the mess also if it was a mess could we have more facts not just an opinion and by the way I would rather have last year than this year
So now Nagy created the mess? Ridiculous. I personally think Nagy did a good job under difficult circumstances and is a far better and wiser coach than his predecessor. If he can recruit, we will be tough in the next few years.
Last years team was painful to watch most of the time, SLU blowout excepted . If that team lost XJ 3rd game of the year, they would have been lucky to win 6-7 games. XJ was the only excitement in that group.
This years team was only sometimes painful to watch. Most of the time after the 0 - 5 MVC start, they were much more exciting. Compare that MVC tournament win over InSU to last year's loss to a bad UIC team.
How about 6 weeks to recruit a whole team late in the cycle. 10 guys from the previous year left. I think he got some darn good talent considering the situation.
Let's just be honest. You don't like Nagy or his demeanor. You think Mullins would have gotten us where we want to be, given another 5 years and 2.5 million bucks. You've taken every opportunity to dis the guy. It gets old.
I mean Drake seemed to have a pretty good reload this year with the same time frame. I know McCollum had all of his players from former school….did Nagy have any former players he could have plucked? He chose not to do that. It’s ok to want SIU to have been better this year….and also ok to have expected to have a better season. Teams have quick turnarounds all of the time. None of us should be resigned to saying SIU cant compete in the MVC. Stop with the excuses and strive to be a top tier team. You call people out for going over the top toward the prior regime, but you are just the opposite….its ok to be critical of Nagy sometimes. I expect to be better next year….whether we return the full roster or don’t retain anybody. That’s just the name of the game now. You might have to start all over but you better get over it and figure it out.
If Nagy walked into a mess which is debatable who created the mess also if it was a mess could we have more facts not just an opinion and by the way I would rather have last year than this year
So now Nagy created the mess? Ridiculous. I personally think Nagy did a good job under difficult circumstances and is a far better and wiser coach than his predecessor. If he can recruit, we will be tough in the next few years.
Last years team was painful to watch most of the time, SLU blowout excepted . If that team lost XJ 3rd game of the year, they would have been lucky to win 6-7 games. XJ was the only excitement in that group.
This years team was only sometimes painful to watch. Most of the time after the 0 - 5 MVC start, they were much more exciting. Compare that MVC tournament win over InSU to last year's loss to a bad UIC team.
we are all thrilled with the 86-85 win over the 9th seeded sycamores. not sure it moves the needle much over the 84-82 double OT loss to the 11th seeded flames. but if there is some big comparison there for you, go ahead.
Bryan Mullins coaching this year was not gonna beat drake. Scott Nagy coaching the previous years was not gonna beat drake. neither bob knight nor Mr. woodcock coaching the salukis the past few years was gonna beat drake. but I am open to a knight vs woodcock comparison if it gets us off Mullins vs Nagy.
personally, I would rather have a beer with woodcock. but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Well if you think the Ind. State game, which was a great basketball game by two evenly matched teams, was anything like our feckless performance against a bad, 4 - 16 UIC team, you probably prefer the 3 yards and a cloud of astroturf to a wide open spread offense in football. You're welcome to it.
If Nagy walked into a mess which is debatable who created the mess also if it was a mess could we have more facts not just an opinion and by the way I would rather have last year than this year
So now Nagy created the mess? Ridiculous. I personally think Nagy did a good job under difficult circumstances and is a far better and wiser coach than his predecessor. If he can recruit, we will be tough in the next few years.
Last years team was painful to watch most of the time, SLU blowout excepted . If that team lost XJ 3rd game of the year, they would have been lucky to win 6-7 games. XJ was the only excitement in that group.
This years team was only sometimes painful to watch. Most of the time after the 0 - 5 MVC start, they were much more exciting. Compare that MVC tournament win over InSU to last year's loss to a bad UIC team.
we are all thrilled with the 86-85 win over the 9th seeded sycamores. not sure it moves the needle much over the 84-82 double OT loss to the 11th seeded flames. but if there is some big comparison there for you, go ahead.
Bryan Mullins coaching this year was not gonna beat drake. Scott Nagy coaching the previous years was not gonna beat drake. neither bob knight nor Mr. woodcock coaching the salukis the past few years was gonna beat drake. but I am open to a knight vs woodcock comparison if it gets us off Mullins vs Nagy.
personally, I would rather have a beer with woodcock. but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Well if you think the Ind. State game, which was a great basketball game by two evenly matched teams, was anything like our feckless performance against a bad, 4 - 16 UIC team, you probably prefer the 3 yards and a cloud of astroturf to a wide open spread offense in football. You're welcome to it.
Do you know who allowed the fewest points and scored the 3rd fewest in the Valley this year?
They were pretty fun to watch.
Style of play is not a mess again please point out what the mess wasIf Nagy walked into a mess which is debatable who created the mess also if it was a mess could we have more facts not just an opinion and by the way I would rather have last year than this year
So now Nagy created the mess? Ridiculous. I personally think Nagy did a good job under difficult circumstances and is a far better and wiser coach than his predecessor. If he can recruit, we will be tough in the next few years.
Last years team was painful to watch most of the time, SLU blowout excepted . If that team lost XJ 3rd game of the year, they would have been lucky to win 6-7 games. XJ was the only excitement in that group.
This years team was only sometimes painful to watch. Most of the time after the 0 - 5 MVC start, they were much more exciting. Compare that MVC tournament win over InSU to last year's loss to a bad UIC team.
How about 6 weeks to recruit a whole team late in the cycle. 10 guys from the previous year left. I think he got some darn good talent considering the situation.
Let's just be honest. You don't like Nagy or his demeanor. You think Mullins would have gotten us where we want to be, given another 5 years and 2.5 million bucks. You've taken every opportunity to dis the guy. It gets old.
Or how about the previous regime not having a single recruit?
I am pretty sure I speak for everyone on this board when I say that I was really sad that Mullins didn't get is back to the Promised Land and was therefore let go. It absolutely sucked.
But the fact is he wasn't getting the job done that he was hired to do, and there were no signs that he was going to get it done. Sad but true.
I've been playing the "what-if" game of Mullins returning this season without losing anyone to the portal (which is debatable) vs. Nagy. My conclusion is that the team would have been better, but probably only 17-16 or 18-15 at best and no match for Drake, Bradley or Belmont. Davis and Ferguson would have been a good nucleus, and Hensley and Rupert would have been decent support players. As for the rest? D'Amico had hit his ceiling. Ebube and Hornecker proved this year in their new locales that they probably wouldn't have been anything special at SIU. Miller had a solid season at his new school, but he appeared lost in Mullins' offense. Definitely would have needed to bring in an impact player at the point to replace XJ; Sharp proved he wasn't the answer this year. There were no high school recruits coming in, and who knows what would've happened in the portal? Mullins probably wouldn't have signed off on a schedule that included Florida and two mid-major powers (College of Charleston and High Point), so the nonconference record probably would have been better. I wasn't happy that Mullins was let go and would have been OK with a common-sense contract extension of two years, but all that means is that we'd probably be having the same discussions this year about his long-term future.
