I moved back to Southern Illinois (Anna) nine years ago, just in time for Lowery to burn down the program and Hinson to piss on the ashes. Now that Mullins is here and our realistic expectations are that it will rise like a phoenix, I just bought a house just north of Cape Girardeau.
I realize I am still close enough to C'dale to attend many games. But I work most Saturdays and have to get up at 5 a.m. It'll be almost an hour and half to the arena instead of 20 minutes.
On the plus side, I'm five minutes from the Show-me Center for when the Salukis are in town. So y'all can tailgate at my place. I'll even have a couple of guest rooms if out of town Saluki fans need a place to crash.
Congrats on moving the hell out of Illinois.
I moved back to Southern Illinois (Anna) nine years ago, just in time for Lowery to burn down the program and Hinson to piss on the ashes. Now that Mullins is here and our realistic expectations are that it will rise like a phoenix, I just bought a house just north of Cape Girardeau.
I realize I am still close enough to C'dale to attend many games. But I work most Saturdays and have to get up at 5 a.m. It'll be almost an hour and half to the arena instead of 20 minutes.
On the plus side, I'm five minutes from the Show-me Center for when the Salukis are in town. So y'all can tailgate at my place. I'll even have a couple of guest rooms if out of town Saluki fans need a place to crash.
That is rough timing. Hopefully things get exciting enough at the Arena (er, Banterra Center), to motivate you to make the drive semi-regularly.
Congrats on moving the hell out of Illinois.
Amen brother!
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I don't understand how you can be a saluki fan, and supposedly a SIU supporter, and then knock the state of Illinois. I love this state, from the Wisconsin border to Cairo, from the Mississippi to the Indiana line. Do we have problems? absolutely! but they are being addressed in what will be a long, slow process. it will not help SIU's turn-around, or start to increase our enrollment if the members of the fan board are knocking the state of Illinois, and advocating for an exodus. If you want to leave, then leave, but be quiet about it while the rest of us choose to stay and be a part of the solution.
Although I have not lived in Illinois since 1980, we have many relatives that do. My brother-in-law recently moved his 19 employee business from the Arlington Heights area to Northwest Indiana. A cousin just moved to Texas after his company moved their headquarters from Chicago to Dallas. Every other family member who lives in Illinois has a desire to leave the state. I believe that Illinois has experienced a population decline for the past 5-6 years, and the state is consistently ranked as the least accommodating state for small business. In July, after the tax increase, Illinois will have the highest gas and fuel taxes in the country. The governor has also proposed an additional tax increase of six billion dollars. High school graduates are increasingly attending college out of state. In fact, 50 percent of high school grads who go to college, leave the state. In my opinion, unless there is a massive political tsunami, people and businesses will continue to flee, with only the political class staying.
Please note that I said nothing about being happy about moving to Missouri or dissing Illinois. Strictly work related.
Didn't intend to start a political discussion.
my comments were not aimed at you appleknocker. as I said, we have problems, but we are working on them. if you want good roads , bridges, public transportation, schools, and yes universities, and myriad other services, you have to pay for them.
Although I have not lived in Illinois since 1980, we have many relatives that do. My brother-in-law recently moved his 19 employee business from the Arlington Heights area to Northwest Indiana. A cousin just moved to Texas after his company moved their headquarters from Chicago to Dallas. Every other family member who lives in Illinois has a desire to leave the state. I believe that Illinois has experienced a population decline for the past 5-6 years, and the state is consistently ranked as the least accommodating state for small business. In July, after the tax increase, Illinois will have the highest gas and fuel taxes in the country. The governor has also proposed an additional tax increase of six billion dollars. High school graduates are increasingly attending college out of state. In fact, 50 percent of high school grads who go to college, leave the state. In my opinion, unless there is a massive political tsunami, people and businesses will continue to flee, with only the political class staying.
Completely disagree. Your part of the elephant I guess.
Illinois has not increased the gas tax since 1990 - that's 29 years I believe. After the increase, it will still be less than PA, NY, CA and 1/2 cent more than a handful of other states. 30 states have increased their gas tax in just the last few years.
Illinois' population increased from 2000 - 2010. It has declined slightly since then. We had that political tsunami for two years until the Republicans smartly rebelled against Rauner - very destructiveto the state and to SIU and many other state universities.
SIU is getting $140 million for much-needed maintenance and construction and a 5% increase for the first time in years.
Increased fees are unfortunate but necessary, but the income tax is still far less than Missouri, Wisconsin, and many other states. Also, retirees are not taxed on IRAs, 401Ks, or SS - something very few states can claim.
I've lived in Wisconsin, Ohio, Colorado, and worked in Missouri for years (got ripped on income taxes) - I'll take Illinois any day of the week. My daughter and family recently moved to Carmel, Indiana and they really miss Glen Ellyn (not the property taxes though.) My son and family have lived in the Denver area for years and keep looking for ways to move back to Illinois.
Illinois is a rich state resource-wise. It has problems, but I'm confident they will be fixed - it will take years.
And by the way, if I had to choose between Arlington Hts. (lived there and Mt. Prospect for years) and Merrillville or Gary, Arlington would win by a country mile!
one of the reasons I always enjoy reading your posts mr. woogers is they are always loaded with facts, not hyperbole. right on, (as we used to say).
I don't understand how you can be a saluki fan, and supposedly a SIU supporter, and then knock the state of Illinois. I love this state, from the Wisconsin border to Cairo, from the Mississippi to the Indiana line. Do we have problems? absolutely! but they are being addressed in what will be a long, slow process. it will not help SIU's turn-around, or start to increase our enrollment if the members of the fan board are knocking the state of Illinois, and advocating for an exodus. If you want to leave, then leave, but be quiet about it while the rest of us choose to stay and be a part of the solution.
Sorry, I politely disagree. This is a FORUM where ALL opinions are welcomed. The state of Illinois is in disarray and I don't believe anyone said anything negative about SIU specifically. If you don't like what you read move on, in other words, take your own advice. I LOVE SIU !!!!!!!!!!!!...............but Illinois is the most corrupt state in the union, especially up here near Chicago.
Although I have not lived in Illinois since 1980, we have many relatives that do. My brother-in-law recently moved his 19 employee business from the Arlington Heights area to Northwest Indiana. A cousin just moved to Texas after his company moved their headquarters from Chicago to Dallas. Every other family member who lives in Illinois has a desire to leave the state. I believe that Illinois has experienced a population decline for the past 5-6 years, and the state is consistently ranked as the least accommodating state for small business. In July, after the tax increase, Illinois will have the highest gas and fuel taxes in the country. The governor has also proposed an additional tax increase of six billion dollars. High school graduates are increasingly attending college out of state. In fact, 50 percent of high school grads who go to college, leave the state. In my opinion, unless there is a massive political tsunami, people and businesses will continue to flee, with only the political class staying.
Completely disagree. Your part of the elephant I guess.
Illinois has not increased the gas tax since 1990 - that's 29 years I believe. After the increase, it will still be less than PA, NY, CA and 1/2 cent more than a handful of other states. 30 states have increased their gas tax in just the last few years.
Illinois' population increased from 2000 - 2010. It has declined slightly since then. We had that political tsunami for two years until the Republicans smartly rebelled against Rauner - very destructiveto the state and to SIU and many other state universities.
SIU is getting $140 million for much-needed maintenance and construction and a 5% increase for the first time in years.
Increased fees are unfortunate but necessary, but the income tax is still far less than Missouri, Wisconsin, and many other states. Also, retirees are not taxed on IRAs, 401Ks, or SS - something very few states can claim.
I've lived in Wisconsin, Ohio, Colorado, and worked in Missouri for years (got ripped on income taxes) - I'll take Illinois any day of the week. My daughter and family recently moved to Carmel, Indiana and they really miss Glen Ellyn (not the property taxes though.) My son and family have lived in the Denver area for years and keep looking for ways to move back to Illinois.
Illinois is a rich state resource-wise. It has problems, but I'm confident they will be fixed - it will take years.
And by the way, if I had to choose between Arlington Hts. (lived there and Mt. Prospect for years) and Merrillville or Gary, Arlington would win by a country mile!
I like how you choose GARY vs Mt Prospect. Seriously I laughed. I guess I would say I would rather live in Dyer, IN than Cabrini Green (back in the day).
Perhaps I'm jealous bc I can't afford to pay $10k in taxes on my property like they do in Naperville but I'm pretty happy where I'm at. To each their own, including their opinions.
Dyer? 😀
Cabrini green
my comments were not aimed at you appleknocker. as I said, we have problems, but we are working on them. if you want good roads , bridges, public transportation, schools, and yes universities, and myriad other services, you have to pay for them.
It's not those things you mentioned that hurt IL as people left and right support all of that (so long as there is no corruption). What is killing Illinois is the overbearing political structure, layers of government, towns with 12,000 people having 6 school districts (each with 200k salaried superintendents and their full administrative staff), and purposefully underfunded pensions we are not allowed to reform nor imprison the crooks that set them up. We are fast approaching the time where the state will be nothing but public employees, utilities to provide services to those public employees, electricity imported from out of state, fuel imported from out of state, kids (of those public employee families) leaving the state to attend college and about 5 million serfs whose existence is to serve those above them. I think everyone right and left can agree with what I just typed. This state has 7000 units of government. I couldn't find a count on non-elected taxing bodies but I'm sure that is up around 50,000 units.
We could very easily become the richest state in the nation and it would take nothing more than a little ethics:
We heat homes with NG, where does that fuel come from? Is it ethical for others to suffer the consequences (good and bad) for this consumption while we are sitting on one of the largest NG plays in the world (the Venezuela dilemma)?
We operate our cars with gasoline and diesel along with a few electrics. Is the base material Oil extracted and refined in IL? Is it ethical for others to suffer the consequences (good and bad) for this consumption while we are sitting on one of the largest NG plays in the world (the Venezuela dilemma) a fuel that can easily be converted into diesel and gasoline using technology from the 1930s?
We all have to obviously use the restroom on a regular basis (biology). Is it fair for us to kill the Gulf of Mexico with our because our big cities/towns don't feel like meeting the same standards on sewage treatment that the other 49 states have to comply with? I only bring this point up because the thought process and logic that allows something like this to happen is screwing every other thing up.
“The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody has decided not to see.”
― Ayn Rand
