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Cowboydawg
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@freedawg  I remember seeing all those teams practicing at one time.


   
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Posted by: @saluki-4-life

I have news for everyone, there are no secret amazing offenses.... Get dudes that can put the ball in the basket. It's that simple.

That is incorrect. Its not that simple. Your only accurate point is that there's no "secret amazing offense".

Of course, you need players that can score, but its the coaches job to design an offense, preferably with multiple actions to counter expected defensive looks that play to the strengths of those players expected to put the ball in the basket. And that should be consistent no matter time, score, situation.

Its obvious some coaches are better at this than others.

 

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siudawgs
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Posted by: @bleedfknmaroon25

Posted by: @saluki-4-life

I have news for everyone, there are no secret amazing offenses.... Get dudes that can put the ball in the basket. It's that simple.

That is incorrect. Its not that simple. Your only accurate point is that there's no "secret amazing offense".

Of course, you need players that can score, but its the coaches job to design an offense, preferably with multiple actions to counter expected defensive looks that play to the strengths of those players expected to put the ball in the basket. And that should be consistent no matter time, score, situation.

Its obvious some coaches are better at this than others.

 

Agreed. I think the Josh Schertz experience in Terre Haute (101 last night!) illustrates that coaching can heavily influence how an offense looks and performs.

I will push back on some who are emphasizing the need for a bunch of set plays. It's good to have some in your back pocket, but an over-reliance on set plays doesn't work as they're often taken away by well-coached teams.

 


   
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BleedFknMaroon25
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Posted by: @siudawgs

Posted by: @bleedfknmaroon25

Posted by: @saluki-4-life

I have news for everyone, there are no secret amazing offenses.... Get dudes that can put the ball in the basket. It's that simple.

That is incorrect. Its not that simple. Your only accurate point is that there's no "secret amazing offense".

Of course, you need players that can score, but its the coaches job to design an offense, preferably with multiple actions to counter expected defensive looks that play to the strengths of those players expected to put the ball in the basket. And that should be consistent no matter time, score, situation.

Its obvious some coaches are better at this than others.

 

Agreed. I think the Josh Schertz experience in Terre Haute (101 last night!) illustrates that coaching can heavily influence how an offense looks and performs.

I will push back on some who are emphasizing the need for a bunch of set plays. It's good to have some in your back pocket, but an over-reliance on set plays doesn't work as they're often taken away by well-coached teams.

 

That's a great point. Set plays are situationally good if they're practiced well enough, but if your offense is bogged down with too many, or overly complicated, it'll take players right out of their natural flow. The general term for this is "overcoaching."

 

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Alright let’s get everyone’s last best guess on who will be the next coach. 


   
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Jabman62
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Someone not mentioned it will be a curve ball


   
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@jabman62 good or bad?


   
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Jabman62
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Who knows these things never go the way of the speculation 


   
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Salukifan32
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All I'm saying is I will be tuned in and focused on the Morehead State/Illinois game


   
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Posted by: @bleedfknmaroon25

Posted by: @siudawgs

Posted by: @bleedfknmaroon25

Posted by: @saluki-4-life

I have news for everyone, there are no secret amazing offenses.... Get dudes that can put the ball in the basket. It's that simple.

That is incorrect. Its not that simple. Your only accurate point is that there's no "secret amazing offense".

Of course, you need players that can score, but its the coaches job to design an offense, preferably with multiple actions to counter expected defensive looks that play to the strengths of those players expected to put the ball in the basket. And that should be consistent no matter time, score, situation.

Its obvious some coaches are better at this than others.

 

Agreed. I think the Josh Schertz experience in Terre Haute (101 last night!) illustrates that coaching can heavily influence how an offense looks and performs.

I will push back on some who are emphasizing the need for a bunch of set plays. It's good to have some in your back pocket, but an over-reliance on set plays doesn't work as they're often taken away by well-coached teams.

 

That's a great point. Set plays are situationally good if they're practiced well enough, but if your offense is bogged down with too many, or overly complicated, it'll take players right out of their natural flow. The general term for this is "overcoaching."

 

 

Your offence should run smoothly, when you have a  set system. Zone offence and Man offence There are exceptions to this what I would call quick hitters when your offence has bogged down or there is an adjustment by your opponent.  These quick hitters are a variation to your offence with 2-3 variations of each position on the court. 
So you have 2-3 from each positions 1-5.  
these quick hitters are usually used only when you  are bogged down offensively.  

 

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Barkeep 1967
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I don’t get the facination with a guy who did not even win the OVC until the two best teams left. This two teams have done what in the Valley ?  


   
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Posted by: @barkeep-1967

I don’t get the facination with a guy who did not even win the OVC until the two best teams left. This two teams have done what in the Valley ?  

They won the OVC in 2021 when Belmont and Murray were still there.  Belmont went 26-4 (18-2) that year and they beat them by 15 in the Championship

 


   
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Spike
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McCollum, Croy, or Howlett(of Cal Baptist and West Liberty, respectively) would be my choices. But I don't know whether the latter two were even interviewed. 


   
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Posted by: @freedawg

Having read some of the previous posts, I have some questions that maybe someone can answer. Have all the coaches cleaned out their offices and are gone from Lingle? If so, who is monitoring the academics of the players? Is anyone working with the players who have not left on skill development? Is anyone on the staff helping those in the portal with questions they have?

On another subject, I agree 100% with Mike Reis about the need for a practice facility. As an early 70’s student, I can remember walking through the Arena and the basketball team was practicing on the floor, the men’s and women’s gymnastic teams were practicing on the concourse as well as the wrestling team. In late January, baseball might also be on the concourse. It was really crazy and this was before women’s sports became big. The teams need a dedicated area for practices with player accessibility. 

He is also correct in that the NIL is even more important. I guess I could cough up a little more $$$ even though my wife said it has to come out of my golfing money. 

Not sure about right now, but when BH was let go, all the assistants and DOBO remained until Mullins was hired and let them go himself. Not saying they are working out with the current players, but they are probably still in their offices, at least to some extent. 

 


   
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Barkeep 1967
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Posted by: @14_alumdawg

Posted by: @freedawg

Having read some of the previous posts, I have some questions that maybe someone can answer. Have all the coaches cleaned out their offices and are gone from Lingle? If so, who is monitoring the academics of the players? Is anyone working with the players who have not left on skill development? Is anyone on the staff helping those in the portal with questions they have?

On another subject, I agree 100% with Mike Reis about the need for a practice facility. As an early 70’s student, I can remember walking through the Arena and the basketball team was practicing on the floor, the men’s and women’s gymnastic teams were practicing on the concourse as well as the wrestling team. In late January, baseball might also be on the concourse. It was really crazy and this was before women’s sports became big. The teams need a dedicated area for practices with player accessibility. 

He is also correct in that the NIL is even more important. I guess I could cough up a little more $$$ even though my wife said it has to come out of my golfing money. 

Not sure about right now, but when BH was let go, all the assistants and DOBO remained until Mullins was hired and let them go himself. Not saying they are working out with the current players, but they are probably still in their offices, at least to some extent. 

 

 

what current players ? 

 


   
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