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Gulf Coast Showcase: SIU vs Eastern Kentucky 11/26/24 11:00 AM FloHoops

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TJ McFlys
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I must say that when I peeked at my phone at work I was shocked to see the score at halftime. This team for whatever reason struggles to start games. Still evolving ? Frustrating string of games.

For those folks stating we should fire Leonard, stop giving $$$ to the collective, and that Mullins deserved a better situation and fate, it's just plain silly. It's November 26, not March 9th! TEN new players, a new HC, and new staff, it's going to take time. Let's see where this team is when the Valley tournament rolls around. We have some young talent on this team, and two very highly regarded players coming in next season. Nagy is going to get it done. He's got 30 plus years of experience, and much success to go with it. Being the HC, I'm sure he's feeling much more frustrated and upset than any of us.  

IF the Dawgs lose tomorrow vs the Florida Tech Computer Science Nerds, I will send back my season tickets, ask for a refund, and stop donations to SASF! Receipt please!

"I STILL have trusty in Nagy"

GO DAWGS!!!


   
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siudawgs
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Posted by: @resaluki-88

Posted by: @siudawgs

Posted by: @siu-alum-05

  • @siudawgs Did you already block out LA tech yesterday? 😂.  Plus coming off the heels of the Florida beat down it just wasn't good scheduling IMO.

There’s a lot not to like at the moment but I don’t know that lamenting that the MTE was too tough is the thing to focus on. It’s a VERY pedestrian field. 

I get your point about it coming off the Florida game, and maybe there’s something to that, but I’m never one to advocate for soft schedules, and with Elliott in the mix, many thought this roster had the makings of an upper-half MVC team.

 

This season isn't lost. It's always been about the conference, we weren't going to get an ncaa at large. Those don't go out to the MVC anymore, see the 2024 Indiana State. We had 1 terrible half in this tourney and should have beaten a really good La Tech team. Sure we have definitely underperformed and it's very disappointing to date. However, this is virtually a brand new team and a brand new coaching staff. I like the tough schedule to harden them up for conference season, which is all that matters in the long run this season. Injuries haven't helped. We need to get Aligbe back as his upside is substantial. We have some talent and can compete. We just need to figure out who we are and play hard for 40 minutes every night.

Bradley at home will be by far the biggest game of the year to date. I hope folks turn out for it.

 

Agree with a lot of this. The only thing I’ll say is if you do win the Valley tournament, non-conference performance does matter if you want a seed that will give you a chance to win a game or two. Plus poor performance drags down the rest of the league. So I’m never one to dismiss the non-conference part of the schedule.

Realize the NCAA talk is a far-fetched hypothetical for this program these days. 😣 

 


   
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Posted by: @mr_woogers

Wow - what a bunch of fair weather couch coaches! Mullins was a poor offensive coach and played a boring brand of basketball. Also made poor personnel decisions that cost us a few games. Lost out on most good recruits. I wish him well but good riddance.

Nagy had 1 1/2 months to recruit 10 players and a new coaching staff. He's done a great job. Now he's lost his best offensive player and today, the team gave a poor effort in that 1st half. Nobody remembers the talented Weber team that got destroyed by Creighton in the MVC tournament? It happens.

We are not going to win the MVC, but Mullins never did with two all-conference Big 10 players, one of which was first team and played on an Elite 8 team and the other a starter on a team that made it to the National Championship!

I think this team will be decent later in the season, but it's year 1. Crazy expectations! I wish anybody that pulls their contributions based on a single half of basketball a flea infestation in their coaching couch!

As I'm not into "sky-is-falling" scenarios at this early date, I agree with this rational, reasonable, even-handed take -- although wishing a flea-infested couch on anybody might be just a bit much! Things are discouraging now and there's a lot of bad karma with all the injuries and poor play, but there's also an awful lot of basketball left to be played. WAY too early to call for people to be fired or to declare this Joe Gottfried Era 2.0. Maybe we are, indeed, looking at a 20-loss season, and that would be hard to swallow, but I also think there's potential for improvement as this group learns to play together. What I saw against Florida was a bunch of guys still trying to find their way.

 

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siudawgs
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BTW Hawkins was not on the bench today but was yesterday.

Guessing he is sick?


   
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ReSaluki 88
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Posted by: @siudawgs

BTW Hawkins was not on the bench today but was yesterday.

Guessing he is sick?

That changes the dynamic big time as Hawkins does 100% of the substitutions.

 


   
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It’s a lost season.  The only teams in the MVC worse are Indiana State, Valpo, and Evansville.


   
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Posted by: @salukiworld

It’s a lost season.  The only teams in the MVC worse are Indiana State, Valpo, and Evansville.

That's not even close to true. Let's revisit this in 6 weeks. Tune out at your own peril.

 


   
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There seems to be a common thought that this team is new the coach is new so on and so on that they will get better  later in the season first of all they have been together since June not 6 weeks which has been stated also one thing that has not been mentioned in today's college basketball as well as other sports turnover of the roster is a way of life and just to play devils advocate won't all the other teams get better also but the thing I can't stand is the lackluster start to ballgame there is no excuse for that


   
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without tv for the game, i can only go by what i heard from Luke and Rodney.  props to them for not holding back  My concern is not the loss or the score.  It's everything our announcer team saw with their own eyes in that first half.. you all heard it too. 

It's unacceptable to the bobber.  and after all these saluki years, he has been forced to accept almost everything.


   
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@the-bobber coach got his players that he wanted.  There is what 3 holdovers? From Mullins. This team will struggle and will find it hard to win games.  Lack of outside shooting and dismal free throw shooting. 
I believe we will be lucky to win 10 games this year


   
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@resaluki-88 Nagy has had this team since June in summer.  There is no excuse for a lacklustre first half.  You come ready to play.  Christ it’s the 7 game of the season no excuse.  What happens during the season when you play a Thursday/ Saturday schedule on the road.


   
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ReSaluki 88
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Posted by: @the-bobber

without tv for the game, i can only go by what i heard from Luke and Rodney.  props to them for not holding back  My concern is not the loss or the score.  It's everything our announcer team saw with their own eyes in that first half.. you all heard it too. 

It's unacceptable to the bobber.  and after all these saluki years, he has been forced to accept almost everything.

I watched the game while listening to the radio crew. It was as bad as was described by the radio crew in the 1st half. Terrible shooting, terrible turnovers, lack of effort. The second half was the polar opposite. Everyone played very hard, gritty and skilled basketball. I agree there are no excuses for the 1st half and I would have no confidence in this team moving forward if they didn't show an incredible amount of grit, hustle and skill in the 2nd half. It doesn't make up for the first half, but shows they did not give up and have some talent. I'm fine if every bi-polar fan on this board wants to give up on them. Not talking about you Bobber.

If you think the season is lost feel free to cancel your disney/espn+ subscription, give away any tickets you have purchased and stop contributing to the NIL & SASF. I on the other hand will continue to drive 4.5 hours round trip, sit in my season ticket seats and watch the potential that has been shown by this team and will hope they put it all together. This team has 3 all MVC type talents in Davis, Dibba and Elliott. Unfortunately, one is lost for the year. Aligbe has all mvc potential eventually in my opinion. If we can get Aligbe back in a reasonable amount of time and stay otherwise healthy I think we may just be this years version of UNI. Way underperform in non conference and put it together in conference.

With this post I am in no way excusing the 1st half's lack of effort. However, the effort and skill put forth in the 2nd half by a dead tired team gives me hope. Anyway, I'll stick around to see how it turns out. The chickens have hardly come home to roost.

 


   
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If our short-handed, injury-decimated football team can come back from a 28-0 deficit, the basketball team certainly recover from this ugly start and have a respectable season. Maybe an apples-oranges comparison, but just sayin' . ... Hey, was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

 

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Although this is not the start any of us was hoping for, I am not ready to throw in the towel on the season. The loss of Elliot hurts and Aligbe being out is not good news either. Looking forward to being in Banterra next Tuesday for the Bradley game. 


   
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I guess the honeymoon is over.


   
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