I may be wrong, but my observation from listening to the radio or ESPN+. I think Nagy is on a glide path to retirement. He has a 6 year contract at $600K a year. Plus if fired for whatever reason. IDK what the buyout is.
So don’t shoot me. It’s just an opinion and I may be completely off target.
Might be the worst defensive team I’ve seen in a long time. Everyone gets blown by and certainly gives up the baseline. Basic fundamentals. The officials had several bad calls and didn’t help make the game enjoyable in the slightest either. I see this team getting worse over the year and not better. Probably some high school teams around here that could beat the dawgs if they played four quarters rather than two halves. I’ll hope the best for them but really not worth the drive there and back to watch guys play that don’t even know what a defensive stance is. And I’m usually optimistic.
I may be wrong, but my observation from listening to the radio or ESPN+. I think Nagy is on a glide path to retirement. He has a 6 year contract at $600K a year. Plus if fired for whatever reason. IDK what the buyout is.
So don’t shoot me. It’s just an opinion and I may be completely off target.
No shootings from me. During my career, I worked with many people (none of whom made anywhere near Nagy money) who started mailing it in when they were in their late 50s or early 60s. Others decided they wanted to go out winners and did great work until their last day on the job. If I were Nagy, I wouldn't want to go out a loser in what's probably my final coaching job, and it's never been my impression he's on any sort of glide path, but who can say for sure (especially at this early date in his tenure at SIU)? The one thing for sure is that if he does not succeed, SIU probably won't be able to afford to buy him out until after that fifth season, so he's probably not going anywhere unless he lands another coaching job or decides to walk away. The positive way to look at it is that he has time to make things right. The negative way is that SIU probably is stuck with him through the 2028-29 season if he doesn't get things right.
High Point has made this the low point of our season.
I don't think Nagy doesn't care. This was a team put together at the last second just to field a roster and not how Nagy really wants to build. We have 2 good high school recruits coming in including the frontrunner right now for Missouri Mr. Basketball. I want results now but this needs more than a year.
Nagy looks exasperated every game. I have no idea if that's just his demeanor or he really has had enough.
Tim Leonard was on the concourse at halftime hanging his head looking pretty bothered.
I don't think Nagy doesn't care. This was a team put together at the last second just to field a roster and not how Nagy really wants to build. We have 2 good high school recruits coming in including the frontrunner right now for Missouri Mr. Basketball. I want results now but this needs more than a year.
I am not against Nagy but the excuse that this is a new roster doesn't really hold. That is a lot of rosters now. Drakes coach was hired after Nagy and returned a similar amount of players. You could argue that this is because he brought some players with him but they were D2 players so that is quite risky(and two of them are grad transfers in their mid 20s).
Due to the portal and NIL even teams with longtime coaches are building new rosters every year. This isn't something that can be used as a crutch anymore, as teams are being built on the fly from the ground up and competing.
Spike we have had are differences on this site before I don't know you but I am in 100 percent agreement on this subjectI don't think Nagy doesn't care. This was a team put together at the last second just to field a roster and not how Nagy really wants to build. We have 2 good high school recruits coming in including the frontrunner right now for Missouri Mr. Basketball. I want results now but this needs more than a year.
I am not against Nagy but the excuse that this is a new roster doesn't really hold. That is a lot of rosters now. Drakes coach was hired after Nagy and returned a similar amount of players. You could argue that this is because he brought some players with him but they were D2 players so that is quite risky(and two of them are grad transfers in their mid 20s).
Due to the portal and NIL even teams with longtime coaches are building new rosters every year. This isn't something that can be used as a crutch anymore, as teams are being built on the fly from the ground up and competing.
I don't think Nagy doesn't care. This was a team put together at the last second just to field a roster and not how Nagy really wants to build. We have 2 good high school recruits coming in including the frontrunner right now for Missouri Mr. Basketball. I want results now but this needs more than a year.
I am not against Nagy but the excuse that this is a new roster doesn't really hold. That is a lot of rosters now. Drakes coach was hired after Nagy and returned a similar amount of players. You could argue that this is because he brought some players with him but they were D2 players so that is quite risky(and two of them are grad transfers in their mid 20s).
Due to the portal and NIL even teams with longtime coaches are building new rosters every year. This isn't something that can be used as a crutch anymore, as teams are being built on the fly from the ground up and competing.
Drake's not a good comparison because most of their roster followed their coach. Nagy didn't bring anyone with him from Wright State.
I don't think Nagy doesn't care. This was a team put together at the last second just to field a roster and not how Nagy really wants to build. We have 2 good high school recruits coming in including the frontrunner right now for Missouri Mr. Basketball. I want results now but this needs more than a year.
I am not against Nagy but the excuse that this is a new roster doesn't really hold. That is a lot of rosters now. Drakes coach was hired after Nagy and returned a similar amount of players. You could argue that this is because he brought some players with him but they were D2 players so that is quite risky(and two of them are grad transfers in their mid 20s).
Due to the portal and NIL even teams with longtime coaches are building new rosters every year. This isn't something that can be used as a crutch anymore, as teams are being built on the fly from the ground up and competing.
Drake's not a good comparison because most of their roster followed their coach. Nagy didn't bring anyone with him from Wright State.
4 players followed and one barely plays. 2 were grad transfers who were going to try their brand at D1 for a year anyway.
Even with 4 that isn't even 1/3 of their current roster. Not "most".
Nagy also could have done that. He REFUSED to try and bring any players.
He handcuffed himself.
Nagy looks exasperated every game. I have no idea if that's just his demeanor or he really has had enough.
Tim Leonard was on the concourse at halftime hanging his head looking pretty bothered.
He should be bothered. SIU fans aren't gonna show up to support a team half-assing it in the effort column.
What concerns me most right now is SIU basketball no longer has an identity.
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I don't think Nagy doesn't care. This was a team put together at the last second just to field a roster and not how Nagy really wants to build. We have 2 good high school recruits coming in including the frontrunner right now for Missouri Mr. Basketball. I want results now but this needs more than a year.
I am not against Nagy but the excuse that this is a new roster doesn't really hold. That is a lot of rosters now. Drakes coach was hired after Nagy and returned a similar amount of players. You could argue that this is because he brought some players with him but they were D2 players so that is quite risky(and two of them are grad transfers in their mid 20s).
Due to the portal and NIL even teams with longtime coaches are building new rosters every year. This isn't something that can be used as a crutch anymore, as teams are being built on the fly from the ground up and competing.
Drake's not a good comparison because most of their roster followed their coach. Nagy didn't bring anyone with him from Wright State.
4 players followed and one barely plays. 2 were grad transfers who were going to try their brand at D1 for a year anyway.
Even with 4 that isn't even 1/3 of their current roster. Not "most".
Nagy also could have done that. He REFUSED to try and bring any players.
He handcuffed himself.
Three starters from one of the very best D2 teams..won 27 games and lost to the D2 National Champ on a buzzer beater.. The one kid was the freshman of the year in that conference and second team all conference as a sophomore and currently the leading scorer.
Absolutely did not build this team from the portal.
And people seem to forget we lost our best player and scorer to injury.
With EE we're at least over .500 IMO.
Steffe’s struggles (and yesterday they went beyond shooting) makes me wonder whether redshirting Bey was the right move as 3-point shooting is supposedly part of Bey’s game. I’m sure there are flaws in his game, probably especially defensively, and hindsight is 20-20, but this team is lousy from 3 and Steffe has not been a solution to this point.
Granted, the bigger issue is a team that was supposed to be good defensively giving up points in bulk against the better teams they face.
I will agree that at times the defensive effort has been disappointing, but the expectations on here for a new coaching staff and a team cobbled together in 1 1/2 months that lost its leading scorer and point guard are just ridiculous.
And High Point is a good team with a lot of talent. They would challenge for the MVC Championship.
I don't think Nagy doesn't care. This was a team put together at the last second just to field a roster and not how Nagy really wants to build. We have 2 good high school recruits coming in including the frontrunner right now for Missouri Mr. Basketball. I want results now but this needs more than a year.
I am not against Nagy but the excuse that this is a new roster doesn't really hold. That is a lot of rosters now. Drakes coach was hired after Nagy and returned a similar amount of players. You could argue that this is because he brought some players with him but they were D2 players so that is quite risky(and two of them are grad transfers in their mid 20s).
Due to the portal and NIL even teams with longtime coaches are building new rosters every year. This isn't something that can be used as a crutch anymore, as teams are being built on the fly from the ground up and competing.
Drake's not a good comparison because most of their roster followed their coach. Nagy didn't bring anyone with him from Wright State.
4 players followed and one barely plays. 2 were grad transfers who were going to try their brand at D1 for a year anyway.
Even with 4 that isn't even 1/3 of their current roster. Not "most".
Nagy also could have done that. He REFUSED to try and bring any players.
He handcuffed himself.
Three starters from one of the very best D2 teams..won 27 games and lost to the D2 National Champ on a buzzer beater.. The one kid was the freshman of the year in that conference and second team all conference as a sophomore and currently the leading scorer.
Absolutely did not build this team from the portal.
And people seem to forget we lost our best player and scorer to injury.
With EE we're at least over .500 IMO.
4 players from his old college. 3 players from the portal. 1 JUCO. And 2 freshman. And his players were still D2 players. It's not 1997, there is advanced scouting and players at that level are there because. D'Avanzo was a stud at D2 but even as a 24 year old was completely overmatched at D1. Some players fall through the cracks but it is rare. And relying so heavily on them was a risk. But he still built a competent roster without players from his old job.
SIU brought 6 players in through the portal. Returned 3. 2 freshman. 2 JUCOs(and one of those, Moreno, is puzzling to how he ended up on any D1 program at all).
And again, there was nothing stopping Nagy from doing the same exact thing. He had some good players and recruits he just refused to try and bring along. It's nice you have some honor but Sorry that's not how college basketball works anymore.
