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Rockin' Dawg
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This is nothing new, guys.  SIU has pretty much always been last in the MVC in funding.  We were shown the numbers all the way back when Paul Kowalcyk started the SASF and I was one of his volunteers.  It has more to do to with our financially depressed region than anything else.  So, it's not going to be easy to fix....ever.


   
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Mr_Woogers
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I HIGHLY DOUBT a practice facility is the magic that brings in talent or excellent coaching. Major bullshit.

Didn't we just lead the MVC in attendance?

Just hire a really good coach and recruiter to get the right players, treat your athletes right, and demand excellence and a whole lot of hard work.

and halftime dog shows, the Jesse White tumblers, the San Diego Chicken .....


   
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Posted by: @siu_2011

Posted by: @oberkfell

Posted by: @kiwiball

@oberkfell 

and who would you like as our next HC?   D2 HC?  D3 HC?  JC HC?  A top assistant?   What are you going to pay him?Also unless we up the anti in getting more money into a Premier program.  It’s going to have the same results. Even the late Bobby Knight wouldn’t win here with our present money situation with basketball!

I have no idea.  But, the last coach had 0 recruits signed for the upcoming year.  That is bad.    

 

How the hell was he supposed to recruit with his contract situation? HS recruits at the level we/he wants aren’t committing to a coach with 1 year left (i.e. recruits with options). Portal was the only way he was going to recruit this year given the situation and that doesn’t open for a week.

 

job description, adapt, persuasion.

The COVID and portal excuses are tiring.  As far as the contract…everyone can take responsibility from the HC, assistants, players, and admin.  

Mullins is gone.  Let’s just hire someone that can bring the program to a higher level. 

 


   
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unless you have NIL money and facilities on hand. You are not going to get top recruits. Believe what you want. We are done with the glory days of the past. It’s  a whole new world out there in college athletics. So unless the administration and boosters come up with big time money for our major sports. You can bring in a top notch coach and it will be a struggle to get back to the post season. 
It’s the way of college sports is now. Like  it or not. 

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oberkfell
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Posted by: @kiwiball

@oberkfell 

unless you have NIL money and facilities on hand. You are not going to get top recruits. Believe what you want. We are done with the glory days of the past. It’s  a whole new world out there in college athletics. So unless the administration and boosters come up with big time money for our major sports. You can bring in a top notch coach and it will be a struggle to get back to the post season. 
It’s the way of college sports is now. Like  it or not. 

Give me some more excuses.  Other schools have improved.  Mullins is gone. 

 


   
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siudawgs
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Posted by: @oberkfell

Posted by: @kiwiball

@oberkfell 

unless you have NIL money and facilities on hand. You are not going to get top recruits. Believe what you want. We are done with the glory days of the past. It’s  a whole new world out there in college athletics. So unless the administration and boosters come up with big time money for our major sports. You can bring in a top notch coach and it will be a struggle to get back to the post season. 
It’s the way of college sports is now. Like  it or not. 

Give me some more excuses.  Other schools have improved.  Mullins is gone. 

 

The NIL piece of the equation is a very real shortcoming at SIU that makes it much tougher to recruit in this modern environment. Mike Reis has certainly been banging that drum on social media.

Speaking of which … wondering if they’ll still call the collective Floorburn U with now changing eras and moving on from Mullins.

 


   
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@oberkfell check there money situation. Bradley is a private school in Peoria. Drake a private school with in Des Moines    Larger population and not in rural area. Indiana state is an anomaly. Brought in a Successful D2 coach that won at his level with experience.  Your glory days of year in and year out NCAA tournament bids is gone. I repeat again.  We need more funds to compete.  Keep dreaming.  I am more of a realist and see what is happening to the state of college basketball. It’s not a pretty sight.

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The practice facility is a definite need. Most schools that have a practice facility have them set up where players can come in on their own with equipment set up for them to work on their game. It would also end the having to end practice early because of a game being played that night. Freeing the Banterra Center for other events creates $$$. Besides the annual Homecoming concert, there were always two more concerts and other events like roller derby when I was a student, usually a sellout or near sellout. 

The NIL is what it is and like it or not, here to stay. There needs to be a better coordinated effort with local entities like Silkworm to create basketball wear to help with this. Possibly hooking up local/area eateries/motels/bars with some sort of “Saluki Card” that offers discounts could provide some income. The main source will probably be donor donations so this needs to be well organized. 


   
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Posted by: @siudawgs

Posted by: @oberkfell

Posted by: @kiwiball

@oberkfell 

unless you have NIL money and facilities on hand. You are not going to get top recruits. Believe what you want. We are done with the glory days of the past. It’s  a whole new world out there in college athletics. So unless the administration and boosters come up with big time money for our major sports. You can bring in a top notch coach and it will be a struggle to get back to the post season. 
It’s the way of college sports is now. Like  it or not. 

Give me some more excuses.  Other schools have improved.  Mullins is gone. 

 

The NIL piece of the equation is a very real shortcoming at SIU that makes it much tougher to recruit in this modern environment. Mike Reis has certainly been banging that drum on social media.

Speaking of which … wondering if they’ll still call the collective Floorburn U with now changing eras and moving on from Mullins.

 

Some schools have NIL links directly on players pages on the school website. I like that idea.

 


   
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I think what would be good is a public fundraising dinner / event that strictly goes to NIL for the players. They can also use this as an opportunity to make the community aware of how NIL works, how it benefits the players, etc. 


   
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Posted by: @foxman24

I think what would be good is a public fundraising dinner / event that strictly goes to NIL for the players. They can also use this as an opportunity to make the community aware of how NIL works, how it benefits the players, etc. 

I think the annual golf scramble money now goes toward the NIL. I may be wrong, but I believe that changed in the last year or two.

 


   
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Southern is so far behind in NIL and fund raising compared to other valley schools and it has nothing to do with the area there are plenty of high end alums need someone to figure out how to get them involved


   
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Posted by: @jabman62

Southern is so far behind in NIL and fund raising compared to other valley schools and it has nothing to do with the area there are plenty of high end alums need someone to figure out how to get them involved

This is true...but who here has seen anything from the groups running the NIL funds...like at all? Very little promotion of the few events they put on and no real out reach to the broader donor community (at least that I've seen). Maybe they've been more active with the big donors? In any case, whoever is managing this collective sure isn't helping much.

Hill just recently posted something about getting people to donate to the Football collective citing the ever changing landscape of NIL and the need to be competitive, but that's the first thing I've seen about that NIL in quite some time.

I get at this level you can't afford to have a full staff/team like the big schools, but we have to do better than this.

 

 


   
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Dawgbytes
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Increased enrollment fixes budget woes. I was involved on a board at SIU for six years and had several discussions with the chancellors and presidents (excluding Glenn Poshard, he never bothered coming to meetings) and looked at the numbers. It's that simple.                                                                                                                                                                                      The dramatic drop in enrollment at SIU is directly attributable to the board of trustees being threatened by mssrs. Bryson and Bardo if minority enrollment was not dramatically increased, which resulting in the board caving and the now infamous Special Admissions Programs being instituted. Students with ACT scores of 11 were being accepted at SIU. I was doing business with a former grade-school teacher who was now teaching at John A Logan. We were having a client meeting and I made the comment that it must be stimulating to now be teaching at a high level. She gave me a tired look and said it was horrible. I asked why. She related to me that Special Admissions students were being bussed to JALC for SIU for classes. She said they were disruptive, could not care less about learning. Said she had one particular student who had been in a gang in Chicago, shot twice, he told her he just wanted to get out of Chicago before he got shot again. She said they all know how many times they can be absent and stay in the program, and they pushed it to the limit. She said I am getting out of this as soon as I can. At the time I was working with a lady whose husband was on SIU police force and told her that kids were being jumped after dark on campus, but everything is kept very hush hush by the administration. The word was of course transmitted back home by students though. So suddenly Nancy from Naperville had no interest whatsoever in sending her daughter to SIU. 

I fear it is going to take a very long time for the public perception of SIU to "heal", but it was all self-inflicted. 

The point I am making is that "big" donors didn't get to be "big" by being stupid. They are not inclined to fall all over themselves to donate money when they see their alma mater being stupid. Actions have consequences.

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