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SIU_2011
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Listened to the Valley coaches teleconference and there were a ton of questions about NIL and how it would affect recruiting among other things. Most of the coaches answers were “I don’t know yet we are just going to support our student athletes.” or something along those lines. To some degree I understand, because the NCAA is woefully unprepared to deal with this and probably have given little guidance (no surprise there).

I think during this time of uncertainty over the next year or two with little to no regulation from the NCAA, there are going to be schools that embrace it, and get a leg up (mostly power 5 schools with a big donor base) and those that get left behind. I hope the mid-majors or at the very least SIU is not one of those teams. I know given the donor base and region there are going to be some limitations, but this is here to stay, so the sooner we figure this out and get on board the better.

Porter Moser is already there at OU:

https://twitter.com/OU_MBBall/status/1410624221986783234?s=20


   
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Two points on this as it pertains to NIL and Saluki athletics:

1. SIU athletes can certainly have a high profile locally but until the Salukis start winning big again (making the NCAA in basketball), the upside is much less than it could be. Hopefully that changes soon.

2. The enrollment decline obviously has taken a big toll on the area’s business landscape. Carbondale always was a small market but it’s even smaller now, and that’s a tough reality in the context of available NIL opportunities for Saluki athletes. Not that there won’t be some, but it’s tougher sledding.


   
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If it’s okay to pay college players, then I guess HS players are next.

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If it’s okay to pay college players, then I guess HS players are next.

"The total athletics revenue reported among all NCAA athletics departments in 2019 was $18.9 billion." https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/research/finances-intercollegiate-athletics

University/college athletes generate this wealth.


   
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SIU_2011
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I have no problem with the athletes making money, but the NCAA has to figure out a way to keep the playing field somewhat level…things in football are already heavily skewed towards the power 5 conferences and this will likely continue that trend. I feel like in college basketball that isn’t the case, at least not to that extent. Without some rules and oversight from the NCAA that may not be the case for much longer.

I get for the 4 and 5-star guys, things like this were likely already happening under the table…this just gives the boosters the green light to expand their efforts. Who knows, maybe there really won’t be much impact, I would hate for SIU to wait around and get left behind though. 


   
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Posted by: @multispeed
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If it’s okay to pay college players, then I guess HS players are next.

"The total athletics revenue reported among all NCAA athletics departments in 2019 was $18.9 billion." https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/research/finances-intercollegiate-athletics

University/college athletes generate this wealth.

Revenue and net income are two different numbers. Athletes are getting a mostly free education, which, ostensibly is the purpose of going to college in the first place. The richer will only get richer, nothing good will come of this. The NCAA showed what prostitutes they are a long time ago. 

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Posted by: @dawgbytes
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If it’s okay to pay college players, then I guess HS players are next.

"The total athletics revenue reported among all NCAA athletics departments in 2019 was $18.9 billion." https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/research/finances-intercollegiate-athletics

University/college athletes generate this wealth.

Revenue and net income are two different numbers. Athletes are getting a mostly free education, which, ostensibly is the purpose of going to college in the first place. The richer will only get richer, nothing good will come of this. The NCAA showed what prostitutes they are a long time ago. 

I wasn't the ncaa's decision. This is a result of a very recent ruling by the United States Supreme Court. The ncaa has to abide by the highest court in the land. I am not a fan of how the ncaa has operated in the last 20 years, but you cannot lay this at their feet. Schools and the ncaa are making billions off the NIL's of student athletes in the revenue sports. This ruling is not a surprise and was coming at some point. Regulating it as to how it relates to recruiting and transfers will be the very tricky part. Liz Jarnigan already sent out a compliance email. Based on her email, NIL payments for recruits and transfers as an incentive to select a particular school are strictly prohibited. Unfortunately, regulating that and forcing compliance will undoubtedly be problematic.


   
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SIU_2011
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Posted by: @carrcar

If it’s okay to pay college players, then I guess HS players are next.

"The total athletics revenue reported among all NCAA athletics departments in 2019 was $18.9 billion." https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/research/finances-intercollegiate-athletics

University/college athletes generate this wealth.

Revenue and net income are two different numbers. Athletes are getting a mostly free education, which, ostensibly is the purpose of going to college in the first place. The richer will only get richer, nothing good will come of this. The NCAA showed what prostitutes they are a long time ago. 

I wasn't the ncaa's decision. This is a result of a very recent ruling by the United States Supreme Court. The ncaa has to abide by the highest court in the land. I am not a fan of how the ncaa has operated in the last 20 years, but you cannot lay this at their feet. Schools and the ncaa are making billions off the NIL's of student athletes in the revenue sports. This ruling is not a surprise and was coming at some point. Regulating it as to how it relates to recruiting and transfers will be the very tricky part. Liz Jarnigan already sent out a compliance email. Based on her email, NIL payments for recruits and transfers as an incentive to select a particular school are strictly prohibited. Unfortunately, regulating that and forcing compliance will undoubtedly be problematic.

You are absolutely right that this wasn't the NCAA's decision, but they sure as hell knew this was coming. The fact that it feels like they were caught with their pants down is the frustrating part. I guess for them it's par for the course. They should have been helping shape these laws or have something in place to help regulate these opportunities to try and keep the playing field as even as possible (knowing it will never been completely even). I guess we'll see how things shake out.


   
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