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Mr_Woogers
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Posted by: @saluki-4-life

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I’m glad to hear Nagy was critical of the effort in the first half.  He saw what I saw.  Then there was a complete lack of focus and fight after getting punched in the mouth.  This group needs to be aggressive and scoring the basketball…. 

I was wondering if the lack of timeouts was trying to teach a lesson.  

 

Nagy doesn't call timeouts to stem runs. He doesn't believe in that. He wants his team to play through it. That was the number 1 complaint on Wright State's fan board when it was announced he was leaving. Don't expect him to ever call a TO when the opposing team is on a run. He's unconventional when it comes to that.

 

That timeout can set up a play, maybe get a score, get D re-organized, slow down the opponent for a few seconds, etc. Nagy's position is very rare among coaches. I don't agree with it.

 

Roy Williams does.

 

Roy also cheats. How many of his players had some lady take courses for them? How NC avoided major penalties is beyond me.

As a teaching moment, I can see possibly letting a team work through a run by an opponent occasionally if they're evenly matched, but when they are huge, shooting out of their minds, and obviously way more talented and you're playing at their place in front of a packed house of hostile fans, it's just plain dumb.

We weren't going to win that game, but a 15 point loss is preferable to an embarrassing blowout. That's the kind of loss that can have longer term hangover on a team's self-confidence.

Nagy said he was embarrassed at times, but part of that is his own fault, which he owned.

 

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Bob Knight used time outs like Nagy!  Also Nagy already told us we would not like it so do we really need two pages on a thread to bitch about what he already told us we wouldn’t like.


   
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Mr_Woogers
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Damn right we do when it contributes to an embarrassing loss!

Censor yourself or don't read it.


   
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I knew a highly successful high school coach back in the day who had the same general philosophy toward timeouts as Nagy. The difference was that when things were going off the rails badly -- or even if he saw something that really ticked him off and just wanted to chew the team out for 20 seconds -- he didn't hesitate to call time. If ever there was a time for a rigid coach to go off his script and call a timeout, that run by Florida was it -- if for no other reason than to quiet the crowd down a bit. Maybe Nagy's decision to stay the course will pay off in the long run. We'll see.

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The previous record for most 3-point attempts by a Saluki opponent was 36 - the Gators flew right by that with 39 shots, and that ties a Florida team record for 3-point attempts as well.

The 16 made threes by Florida does fall just one short of the SIU opponent record, as Evansville's reached 17 twice.

I knew that Nagy's teams in the past gave up a lot of points, but didn't know that lack of defending the three was the reason.  Seems like they'd better start working on that, or teams might just camp out there all year and fire away, like we've seen these last two games.  Thankfully, NDSU missed nearly everything, but Florida wasn't missing those wide-open looks.


   
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Calling a timeout in the first half probably doesn't make a difference in the result especially when you don't have any intensity or fight which is to me more of a problem hopefully the coach can get them to have some fight at the beginning of the next game


   
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We’ll be a bottom 4 team in the Valley without Elliott.  Sucks football and basketball both got their seasons destroyed by injury 


   
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Posted by: @salukiworld

We’ll be a bottom 4 team in the Valley without Elliott.  Sucks football and basketball both got their seasons destroyed by injury 

Did you get confirmation he is out for the year? It looked bad but I haven't heard anything official.

 


   
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Posted by: @mr_woogers

Florida is not great, but they are very good and will win a lot of games. Ranked #19 and that's not overranked.

They shot 41% from three - that's excellent. Doubt they'll do that every game.

Nagy had to get 10 players and a bunch of coaches in a very short time. Did a good job I think, but this is definitely a transition year. Don't expect much. Without EE, expect even less unless Sharp is better than I think he is.

Is he even still on the team??

 


   
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Florida is not great, but they are very good and will win a lot of games. Ranked #19 and that's not overranked.

They shot 41% from three - that's excellent. Doubt they'll do that every game.

Nagy had to get 10 players and a bunch of coaches in a very short time. Did a good job I think, but this is definitely a transition year. Don't expect much. Without EE, expect even less unless Sharp is better than I think he is.

Is he even still on the team??

 

Yes, he, Weber and Bey are all redshirting. They still practice and travel with the team.

 


   
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Posted by: @mr_woogers

Damn right we do when it contributes to an embarrassing loss!

Censor yourself or don't read it.

it didn’t contribute to anything… you couch coaches are hilarious. Coaches let players play through this stuff and learn because they believe in benefits the team long term. How amazing would it have been to lose by 4 points less! Even though timeout would have likely made less difference than that. Nothing is ever going to be the right thing to some of you cause you think you’re smarter than guys who have been coaching for a lifetime. 

 


   
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We’ll be a bottom 4 team in the Valley without Elliott.  Sucks football and basketball both got their seasons destroyed by injury 

whats the injury?

 


   
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Yeah I don’t think calling timeouts would have changed the outcome of the game but it could have saved the first half from turning into a blow out.  I tend to trust Nagy everywhere else though.  He’s been a winner everywhere he’s been for a reason.


   
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Posted by: @salukiworld

Yeah I don’t think calling timeouts would have changed the outcome of the game but it could have saved the first half from turning into a blow out.  I tend to trust Nagy everywhere else though.  He’s been a winner everywhere he’s been for a reason.

but regarding you saying Elijah is out for the season… let’s address that now lol

 


   
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Posted by: @saluki-4-life

Posted by: @salukiworld

Yeah I don’t think calling timeouts would have changed the outcome of the game but it could have saved the first half from turning into a blow out.  I tend to trust Nagy everywhere else though.  He’s been a winner everywhere he’s been for a reason.

but regarding you saying Elijah is out for the season… let’s address that now lol

 

Im guessing we won’t know until game time, just about 24 hours away!

 

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