2018 St Louis Cardinals thread

Cardinals just need to pack it in 

Get anything you can get for Fowler. Package him with Kelly and see if anybody will pick up at least part of the contract and a decent prospect.  They are wasting Kelly and Yadi has at least 2 more years and they have another 23 year old solid catching prospect.  Makes room for O’Neal 

They have have so much young pitching. C Mart or Wacha are expendable. Package one of them with Pham you should get a solid player for the future 

any American League contender team will over pay for Martinez 

get a real manager. Fire everybody responsible for the current mess and hopefully by 2020 they are respectable 

blame Matheny all you want. This team just is not very good 

Fowler has a no trade and little value. Wacha is probably more valuable to keep than what you would get in return due to his health history. Kelly, C Martinez and J Martinez along with the young pitching are the best trade bates. Except for yadi, all the rest of the position players are expendable but probably would just be trading average players for average players. It's a mess by Cardinal standards.

Fowler would not block any trade at this point 

Matheny was a bad manager and I’m delighted he is gone, but Dewitt was deluding himself if he really thought this was a good team being held back by the manager.  We haven’t signed or traded for a true reliable bat since Pujols left. 

We desperately need a new GM too and we need Dewitt to realize you need to spend big to get that MVP caliber or CY Young caliber player to build your prospects around

Sounds like Cole Hamels is going to the Cubs. This is a team that needs to be gutted. There is some pretty good talent in Memphis. Bring'em up and let them play.

Hamels has not been good lately. Hopefully that continues.

Posted by: The Goblin King

We desperately need a new GM too and we need Dewitt to realize you need to spend big to get that MVP caliber or CY Young caliber player to build your prospects around

I would love to set Mo adirft down the Mississippi. However, as long as those turnstiles continue to click, Dewitt won't be that motivated to make some big moves like that.

Posted by: Saluki 69

Posted by: The Goblin King

We desperately need a new GM too and we need Dewitt to realize you need to spend big to get that MVP caliber or CY Young caliber player to build your prospects around

I would love to set Mo adirft down the Mississippi. However, as long as those turnstiles continue to click, Dewitt won't be that motivated to make some big moves like that.

Eh you could have said the same thing about Matheny too yet they pulled the trigger.  Overall there is more to the profits than ticket sales.  There have been plenty games this year where the tickets were sold but there were a lot of empty seats.  Empty seats are lost concession sales, and that certainly adds up

Matheny is chump change compared to the cash you are talking about for an MVP. It was a cosmetic move.

Worst cardinal defense I have ever witnessed.  Plus they should Rock Kylie Minogue.

No more Pham.  Good .

Posted by: oberkfell

No more Pham.  Good .

 

It looks like we got three prospects from Tampa in the trade. 

Fowler must have some serious blackmail material on somebody.   How is he starting every day.  He is hitting .179 

It's his swag that they love about the guy.

Posted by: Barkeep 1967

Fowler must have some serious blackmail material on somebody.   How is he starting every day.  He is hitting .179 

Its not like crap like this is new.  Players making big dollars are often given near infinite chances.  If Fowler was a 5 million a year guy hed be on the bench or cut