Other than STL, in what other regional locations do we have recruiters operating these days?
We'd see some real growth if we got our Tuition rates down to what Indiana kids pay to go to Purdue. We are about 30% more expensive than a top tier school. Kind of makes you wonder where the priorities are at SIU.
“The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody has decided not to see.”
― Ayn Rand
We'd see some real growth if we got our Tuition rates down to what Indiana kids pay to go to Purdue. We are about 30% more expensive than a top tier school. Kind of makes you wonder where the priorities are at SIU.
My daughter is headed to Mizzou in August and 4 years at Mizzou is cheaper than four years at SIU....or any other state school in Illinois. Illinois' government isn't doing it's residents any favors.
Watched an interesting discussion on students using internet courses to finish the semester and liking it. The experts were predicting that because of the convenience, portability, and vastly reduced cost of online programs, there may be a closure of 20% of colleges and multiple merging of others.
“The best thing about freshmen is that they become sophomores.”
-- Al McGuire
Watched an interesting discussion on students using internet courses to finish the semester and liking it. The experts were predicting that because of the convenience, portability, and vastly reduced cost of online programs, there may be a closure of 20% of colleges and multiple merging of others.
I also heard a discussion that businesses might keep employees working at home and save money by renting less office space. I believe this virus will cause a lot of permanent change to our society.
Will Half Of All Colleges Really Close In The Next Decade?
All state universities except Illinois, UIC, Redturd St., and SIUE have serious enrollment issues. This is a nationwide phenomenon...but worse in Illinois than a lot of states. Fewer college age kids, high tuition, etc.
Wouldn't surprise me to see Chicago St., NEIU, or EIU close. EIU had only 3600 full time students on campus this Spring.
The SIU had only 10,800 this Spring, but freshman retention was very high - 91% - and applications/acceptance are up 20+% for Fall. They are going to freeze tuition. Not enough. Needs to be lowered! This is a competition now with far fewer students available than 20 years ago. Also need to hire an enrollment manager since the previous one just left!
However, this pandemic is very possibly going to screw up the works!
I still think we need to dust off the org chart from the 90s and ask the hard question why that level of staffing would not be adequate for our reduced numbers. When your directional school has 30-40% higher in state tuition than a great school like Purdue, changes must be made.
“The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody has decided not to see.”
― Ayn Rand
I still think we need to dust off the org chart from the 90s and ask the hard question why that level of staffing would not be adequate for our reduced numbers. When your directional school has 30-40% higher in state tuition than a great school like Purdue, changes must be made.
I looked this up because I didn’t think this could possibly be true... Purdue’s in-state tuition is $9,992 while SIU’s is $14,704 😳. I believe the state of Indiana also has a budget surplus.
I still think we need to dust off the org chart from the 90s and ask the hard question why that level of staffing would not be adequate for our reduced numbers. When your directional school has 30-40% higher in state tuition than a great school like Purdue, changes must be made.
I looked this up because I didn’t think this could possibly be true... Purdue’s in-state tuition is $9,992 while SIU’s is $14,704 😳. I believe the state of Indiana also has a budget surplus.
Missouri's is very similar. Again, the state of Illinois and the public universities need to re-evaluate how they're doing business, specifically with it's residents. They should have seen the writing on the wall by now, given the number of in-state kids that are heading out of state for college.
I still think we need to dust off the org chart from the 90s and ask the hard question why that level of staffing would not be adequate for our reduced numbers. When your directional school has 30-40% higher in state tuition than a great school like Purdue, changes must be made.
I looked this up because I didn’t think this could possibly be true... Purdue’s in-state tuition is $9,992 while SIU’s is $14,704 😳. I believe the state of Indiana also has a budget surplus.
Missouri's is very similar. Again, the state of Illinois and the public universities need to re-evaluate how they're doing business, specifically with it's residents. They should have seen the writing on the wall by now, given the number of in-state kids that are heading out of state for college.
I'm not sure they even care. How is it possible to have SIUe and SIU under the same umbrella given the nature of choices SIU has made over the years? It is as if SIU's priorities are geared more towards civil service employment and political correctness than serving the educational needs of IL citizens.
“The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody has decided not to see.”
― Ayn Rand
I've been saying this for years - easy enrollment fix - lower tuition and make us one of the best bargains in the Midwest. Enrollment will go up and more money will roll in. Not sure this would ever happen with the boat anchor of Ed. State tied to us! I think if we split from Ed. State (don't care what they do - they won't have an enrollment problem being in a metropolitan area), then became one of the best bargains in the Midwest, we'd be fine.
Mitch Daniels has frozen Purdue’s tuition—at less than $10,000—for seven straight years.
"Increased enrollment since the freeze has brought in an extra $100 million....the predictably flat tuition attracted more students, creating a larger student body that brought in increased revenue, which allowed for the hiring of more and higher-quality faculty (salary of a full-time professor at Purdue has increased by 12 percent over the past five years, against a Big 10-average increase of 7 percent), whose research the university could profitably license to the private sector, where alumni, delighted at the celebrated achievements of their alma mater, helped increase donations by 136 percent over six years, which in turn has helped keep the freeze in place."
"Purdue struck a deal with Amazon to provide textbooks, saving students 30 percent on average"
(some professors actually b i t ch about the large freshmen classes!! nice problem to have!)
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/04/mitch-daniels-purdue/606772/
I think SIU's inept...and largely incompetent senior leadership is to blame for the current enrollment numbers. You're correct, these individuals didn't care, didn't have any sustainable long term plans, and were largely flying by the seat of their pants. Like numerous current corporate CEO's around this country, they're in it for the money....and that's really it. They don't care if they flush the company down the toilet and get canned, because they're still due for a BIG payout. Hopefully SIU has the right people in place to create a sustainable plan and process for increasing enrollment, correcting financial issues, and presenting the university in a positive light to perspective students, existing students, parents, and alumni. Given the state of Illinois, the current enrollment challenges, and the drive to online coursework, given this f'ing virus, it's do or die time.
The way it is now having SIU essentially "robbing" e is just allowing them to make worse and worse decisions with little consequence. Splitting off the e would instantaneously change things at SIU. It's disappointing we don't have enough quality people on the board to force the needed changes. For those who might think otherwise, cleaning out the corruption, firing ineptness, and providing vision is the boards specific function.
https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Board+of+Regents
“The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody has decided not to see.”
― Ayn Rand
Does anyone know how bad the ban on Chinese STEM students will hurt us?
A Chinese coworker told me China is looking to greatly reduce the 300k plus kids they send to our colleges (above and beyond stem). Wonder how bad that'll hurt?
“The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody has decided not to see.”
― Ayn Rand
Anyone know what enrollment numbers are projected at? I assume they’ll take a hit due to the pandemic, and the fact that they seem to take a hit every year.
