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Sal Uki
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Posted by: @invisiblesaluki

Just because an orgainzation was founded by someone with a certain controversial viewpoint doesn't necessarily make the entire organization defined by it.

 

See Martin Luther's blatant antisemitism.

Susan Rosenberg is a board member, principal fundraiser and convicted terrorist, pardoned by Bill Clinton on his last day in office. Do you know her story?

 

Bluster and barbeque don't win championships.


   
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Posted by: @sal-uki
Posted by: @invisiblesaluki

Just because an orgainzation was founded by someone with a certain controversial viewpoint doesn't necessarily make the entire organization defined by it.

 

See Martin Luther's blatant antisemitism.

Susan Rosenberg is a board member, principal fundraiser and convicted terrorist, pardoned by Bill Clinton on his last day in office. Do you know her story?

 

She wasn't pardoned - her sentence was commuted to time served - 16 years. There IS a difference. She's still a convicted felon. 

She's also not exactly a board member of BLM but a board member of an org. that raises money for them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Rosenberg

"Rosenberg was charged with a role in the 1983 bombing of the United States Capitol Building, the U.S. National War College and the New York Patrolmen's Benevolent Association, but the charges were dropped as part of a plea deal by other members of her group.[7][12]

Arrested for explosives possession in November 1984 after two years underground, she was convicted by a jury in March 1985, and given a 58-year-sentence. Supporters said this was sixteen times the national average for such offenses.[13] Her lawyers contend that, had the case not been politically charged, Rosenberg would have received a five-year sentence.[6]"

"As of 2020, Rosenberg serves as Vice Chair of the Board of Directors of Thousand Currents, a non-profit foundation that sponsors the fundraising and does administrative work for the Black Lives Matter Global Network, among other clients."

https://thousandcurrents.org/

was formerly called International Development Exchange, founded by former Peace Corps volunteers:

https://thousandcurrents.org/formerly-idex/

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This is BLM's official statement. Nothing about Marxism. Doesn't mean some aren't Marxists. Just like conservatism is not defined by a belief that liberals are shape shifting lizard people .... but some evidently believe that! LOL

https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/

 


   
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Posted by: @mr_woogers
Posted by: @sal-uki
Posted by: @invisiblesaluki

Just because an orgainzation was founded by someone with a certain controversial viewpoint doesn't necessarily make the entire organization defined by it.

 

See Martin Luther's blatant antisemitism.

Susan Rosenberg is a board member, principal fundraiser and convicted terrorist, pardoned by Bill Clinton on his last day in office. Do you know her story?

 

She wasn't pardoned - her sentence was commuted to time served - 16 years. There IS a difference. She's still a convicted felon. 

She's also not exactly a board member of BLM but a board member of an org. that raises money for them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Rosenberg

"Rosenberg was charged with a role in the 1983 bombing of the United States Capitol Building, the U.S. National War College and the New York Patrolmen's Benevolent Association, but the charges were dropped as part of a plea deal by other members of her group.[7][12]

Arrested for explosives possession in November 1984 after two years underground, she was convicted by a jury in March 1985, and given a 58-year-sentence. Supporters said this was sixteen times the national average for such offenses.[13] Her lawyers contend that, had the case not been politically charged, Rosenberg would have received a five-year sentence.[6]"

"As of 2020, Rosenberg serves as Vice Chair of the Board of Directors of Thousand Currents, a non-profit foundation that sponsors the fundraising and does administrative work for the Black Lives Matter Global Network, among other clients."

https://thousandcurrents.org/

was formerly called International Development Exchange, founded by former Peace Corps volunteers:

https://thousandcurrents.org/formerly-idex/

-------------------

This is BLM's official statement. Nothing about Marxism. Doesn't mean some aren't Marxists. Just like conservatism is not defined by a belief that liberals are shape shifting lizard people .... but some evidently believe that! LOL

https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/

 

I'll add that what she was convicted of occurred before there was a legal definition of terrorism and to my eye doesn't directly meet that definition anyway.

 

Not that what she did was right or justified or anything.


   
Sal Uki
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So the shame And stigma of only having the sentence commuted was still good enough to land her a gig as a top BLM fundraiser? Interesting. 😂

I can’t even imagine the mental gymnastics it takes to convince yourself people aren’t who they say they are. 16 years is not a long time for 740 pounds of explosives, heavy arms and three dead people in an armored car robbery. 

 

 

 

Bluster and barbeque don't win championships.


   
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@sal-uki

Except she wasn't convicted for the three dead people.


   
Sal Uki
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Except she wasn't convicted for the three dead people.

Well shucks, the poor thing is just misunderstood. Just like the marxists who lead the not-Marxist organization. 😂 

Again, mental gymnastics. 

 

Bluster and barbeque don't win championships.


   
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What happened to innocent until proven guilty?  She wasn't proven guilty on the three dead people, heck, they didn't end up trying to prove that she was guilty there.

 

 


   
Sal Uki
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What happened to innocent until proven guilty?  She wasn't proven guilty on the three dead people, heck, they didn't end up trying to prove that she was guilty there.

She was sentenced to 58 years, and she openly advocated the violent overthrow of our government.

Those actions turned out to be great qualifications to be BLM’s top fundraiser. I can explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you. 

Bluster and barbeque don't win championships.


   
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Posted by: @invisiblesaluki

What happened to innocent until proven guilty?  She wasn't proven guilty on the three dead people, heck, they didn't end up trying to prove that she was guilty there.

She was sentenced to 58 years, and she openly advocated the violent overthrow of our government.

Those actions turned out to be great qualifications to be BLM’s top fundraiser. I can explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you. 

Is she personally their top fundraiser? Or rather a board member of an organization that raises money for BLM?

Does that negate the BLM goal of racial justice and an end to excessive force against blacks? 

She could be a shape-shifting lizard person (and probably is) and I wouldn't consider that a reason to completely disregard the stated goal of BLM.


   
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Sal Uki
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@mr_woogers

These people are exactly who they say they are. You can skirt around that, rationalize it, excuse it and whatever else it takes to do the mental gymnast thing. 

Just do it on your own. We’re fire pitting. 😂 

 

This post was modified 4 years ago by Sal Uki

Bluster and barbeque don't win championships.


   
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ugh. 

(Inflammatory political snark)


   
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@sal-ukiThe further a society drifts from the truth, the more it hates those who speak it.     George Orwell

The advancement and diffusion of knowledge is the only guardian of true liberty.
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Sal Uki
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@sal-ukiThe further a society drifts from the truth, the more it hates those who speak it.     George Orwell

No doubt. Truly strange times when deviating from groupthink can cost you your job. It took a lot of courage to do what mr. Coonrod did.

Lenin had a term for people who were down with the cause, without really knowing what they were getting themselves into. 

This post was modified 4 years ago by Sal Uki

Bluster and barbeque don't win championships.


   
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Posted by: @sal-uki

@mr_woogers

These people are exactly who they say they are. You can skirt around that, rationalize it, excuse it and whatever else it takes to do the mental gymnast thing. 

Just do it on your own. We’re fire pitting. 😂 

 

Everyone should google blm founder Patrisse Cullons. Go Dawgs!


   
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