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siudawgs
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Posted by: @siu_2011

For those that haven’t seen this yet, Luke Martin does an extensive interview with Noah Fenske and the waiver process with the NCAA…if you didn’t already loathe that organization, listening to this will put you over the top.

https://x.com/SIUSalukis/status/1717194316655816872?s=20

Listened. This was a good idea for a podcast and an interesting story to tell.

If Fenske stays healthy, physically and mentally, sounds like Quarterback TBD is going to have a helluva starting left tackle in the 2024 season.

 


   
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Mr_Woogers
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https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2023-10-26/south-dakota-state-montana-state-lead-fcs-football-committees-top-10

“This is a snapshot of where the committee ranks the Top 10 today, based on our review of each team’s resume,” said Kent Haslam, chair of the committee and director of athletics at Montana. “There will be a lot of impactful games played the next few weeks, so things are likely to change. We thought providing transparency would be helpful to the FCS community.”

1 South Dakota State 7-0
2 Montana State 6-1
3 Furman 6-1
4 South Dakota 6-1
5 Delaware 6-1
6 Montana 6-1
7 Idaho 5-2
8 Sacramento State 5-2
9 Western Carolina 5-2
10 UIW 6-1

 

This is a metric they also use (and in basketball too). SIU is #12. Best win - AP.

https://faktorsports.com/#/home


   
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ReSaluki 88
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Posted by: @mr_woogers

https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2023-10-26/south-dakota-state-montana-state-lead-fcs-football-committees-top-10

“This is a snapshot of where the committee ranks the Top 10 today, based on our review of each team’s resume,” said Kent Haslam, chair of the committee and director of athletics at Montana. “There will be a lot of impactful games played the next few weeks, so things are likely to change. We thought providing transparency would be helpful to the FCS community.”

1 South Dakota State 7-0
2 Montana State 6-1
3 Furman 6-1
4 South Dakota 6-1
5 Delaware 6-1
6 Montana 6-1
7 Idaho 5-2
8 Sacramento State 5-2
9 Western Carolina 5-2
10 UIW 6-1

 

This is a metric they also use (and in basketball too). SIU is #12. Best win - AP.

https://faktorsports.com/#/home

Our best win is at Northern Illinois but they must not count FBS wins in their computing.

 


   
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Saluki44
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If we were to lose next week to SD and then at NDSU, but beat InSt to finish the season, would those 7 wins get us a playoff spot? They would, right?

Beat SD and InSU and get a home game? 


   
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TJ McFlys
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The wins against SEMO, AP and NIU are looking better each week. 

NIU is two wins away from a bowl game, and both SEMO and AP are in first place in their respective leagues. If they do in fact win their leagues, that's two more additional playoff teams the Salukis defeated. 

We most certainly should have defeated SD in the dome last year, and let it slip away. Don't think that happens next week. 

GO DAWGS!!!


   
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Jabman62
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Here is a novel approach why don't we win the last 3 games remove any doubt and possibly get a 1st round bye just saying😄


   
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Kyle_Saluki_17
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Posted by: @tj-mcflys

The wins against SEMO, AP and NIU are looking better each week. 

NIU is two wins away from a bowl game, and both SEMO and AP are in first place in their respective leagues. If they do in fact win their leagues, that's two more additional playoff teams the Salukis defeated. 

We most certainly should have defeated SD in the dome last year, and let it slip away. Don't think that happens next week. 

GO DAWGS!!!

 

SEMO just lost their starting QB for the season but still won yesterday. I’m interested to see if they can still win that league

 


   
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Kyle_Saluki_17
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https://x.com/samherderfcs/status/1719733560406372652?s=46&t=L0KLmzd59WCyTK-u9Lr2dw

SIU predicted as an 8 seed as long as they win one of their next 2 games and beat Indiana State. 


   
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hmm, do we almost certainly get in with a win against ISUblue even if we lose to USD and NDSU?

I'd think 7-4 with a win against a probably bowl eligible FBS team in NIU and a blowout win against top 25 Austin Pee plus probably coming the closest anyone's come to beating #1 SDSU would almost certainly get us in, but I'm not at all confident.


   
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TJ McFlys
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@kyle_saluki_17 

While I just might sound like a former coach, the "one game at a time" cliche comes into play. Stay focused on the current opponent, be disciplined, and do your job and positive results will occur. Just want to arrive at 7-2 come Saturday evening. 

GO DAWGS!!!


   
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Mr_Woogers
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Updated Faktor ratings

1 sdsu

3 usd

14 und

18 siu

21 uni 

24 ndsu

29 ysu 

https://faktorsports.com/

 

 

 

 


   
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ReSaluki 88
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Posted by: @mr_woogers

Updated Faktor ratings

1 sdsu

3 usd

14 und

18 siu

21 uni 

24 ndsu

29 ysu 

https://faktorsports.com/

 

 

 

 

Those rankings are a joke! I hope they don't actually use this for anything. Drake and Austin Peay are ranked ahead of SIU?!? That's crazy. SDSU beat Drake 70-7! They are non scholarship.

 


   
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ReSaluki 88
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https://www.dratings.com/sports/ncaa-fcs-football-ratings/

This one looks a little more reasonable.


   
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Mr_Woogers
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And after USD got blown out by SDSU, they dropped from 3 to 4! Made no sense. I certainly hope the committee sees the absurdity of this metric.

I haven't seen a computer ranking yet that doesn't have something seriously stupid about it.

 

Haslam and the committee consider some of the following criteria (in no order) when selecting at large teams:

  • Each team’s won-lost record
  • Each team's strength of schedule
  • Eligibility and availability of student-athletes for the NCAA championship
  • AFCA Coaches’ Poll 
  • Stats Perform FCS Top 25 Poll (replacing the NCAA Simple Rating System (NCAA SRS))
  • Additionally, as part of a pilot program, the committee will start to consider the KPI with the hopes of adding it as an official tool in future years.

 

https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2023-10-26/south-dakota-state-montana-state-lead-fcs-football-committees-top-10#:~:text=South%20Dakota%20State%2C%20Montana%20State%20lead%20FCS%20football,%20%206-1%20%206%20more%20rows%20


   
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ReSaluki 88
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Posted by: @mr_woogers

And after USD got blown out by SDSU, they dropped from 3 to 4! Made no sense. I certainly hope the committee sees the absurdity of this metric.

I haven't seen a computer ranking yet that doesn't have something seriously stupid about it.

 

Haslam and the committee consider some of the following criteria (in no order) when selecting at large teams:

  • Each team’s won-lost record
  • Each team's strength of schedule
  • Eligibility and availability of student-athletes for the NCAA championship
  • AFCA Coaches’ Poll 
  • Stats Perform FCS Top 25 Poll (replacing the NCAA Simple Rating System (NCAA SRS))
  • Additionally, as part of a pilot program, the committee will start to consider the KPI with the hopes of adding it as an official tool in future years.

 

https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2023-10-26/south-dakota-state-montana-state-lead-fcs-football-committees-top-10#:~:text=South%20Dakota%20State%2C%20Montana%20State%20lead%20FCS%20football,%20%206-1%20%206%20more%20rows%20

The KPI is one of the worst metrics I have seen. The fact that they have non scholarship Drake who plays a cupcake, mostly non scholarship schedule ahead of us is incomprehensible. You can remove Harvard and Penn from his rankings as the Ivy league does not participate in the FCS playoffs. This would put us at #16. Still this algorithm is a complete joke!

 


   
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