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So what do you think would happen if we rolled back staffing (admin and teaching) to 1990s levels, got the professors back into the classroom, and kept 30% of the savings for improving education? Make it so all future decisions made strictly regarding education without concerns for politics, unions, preferences, etc. with the goal of at least being a middle of the pack school for IL colleges.

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Posted by: Morris Saluki

So what do you think would happen if we rolled back staffing (admin and teaching) to 1990s levels, got the professors back into the classroom, and kept 30% of the savings for improving education? Make it so all future decisions made strictly regarding education without concerns for politics, unions, preferences, etc. with the goal of at least being a middle of the pack school for IL colleges.

You should clearly be SIU's president. Just say "1990" one more time and everything will be solved. 


   
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So what do you think would happen if we rolled back staffing (admin and teaching) to 1990s levels, got the professors back into the classroom, and kept 30% of the savings for improving education? Make it so all future decisions made strictly regarding education without concerns for politics, unions, preferences, etc. with the goal of at least being a middle of the pack school for IL colleges.

You should clearly be SIU's president. Just say "1990" one more time and everything will be solved. 

1990 staffing levels for enrollment reduced 40% from 1990 levels.  You can't solve a problem unless you expose it.  Have you heard any indication from anyone they will actually reduce costs (less buildings and less bellybuttons on the payroll)? 

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NPR reports 1500 Illinois kids decided to go to college in Alabama this year.  Really?

 

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Personally, I think the board and the administration need to get onboard with the Chancellor's plans to consolidate programs and create some new majors that are more relevant to today's society.  All of these individuals that don't want change should be more concerned about getting canned due to declining enrollment and lack of change.  It's another situation where there's people that have been at the university for far too long and can't see the forest for the trees.  SIU will continue to tank, unless it can reinvent itself, and create an identity that's appealing to today's high school grads.

Did you read the Belleville News-Democrat editorial? The secret is out on Montemagno, the attempts to hire family members to politically connected positions basically sucked away all the legitimacy he had in implementing his restructuring plan, which, to be honest, was reshuffling deck chairs on the Titanic. It simply didn't go far enough anyway. Haven't you heard, that everything outside of CASA, Science, and Engineering is bleeding enrollment? People here simply see that the non-CASA/Sci/Engineering majors aren't contributing to SIU quality. Combine this with the absolute idiotic decision on his part to retain Hinson, and that all adds up to a lot of alumni who are done with him. He's looking more and more like another short-term chancellor. I get he was brought in to repair a damaged campus, but he's more and more looking like he doesn't have the ability to repair the damage, not to mention Dunn has seemingly seen the writing on the wall and shifted priority to the Edwardsville campus. Through a healthy dose of Hucky on top and voila, a politically ineffective Chancellor who must go out the door with Hucky. 


   
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Posted by: Morris Saluki

NPR reports 1500 Illinois kids decided to go to college in Alabama this year.  Really?

 

ROLL DAMN TIDE!!! (I kid, but seriously, it's probably cheaper than SIU once one establishes residency within Alabama.)

The faculty is an easy target for blame, but administration above not only hired them, then summarily reject any good ideas they may have about turning around SIU. If shared governance was actually a thing here, I'd share the blame I place with the administration and also share it with the faculty. It has never been a thing here. That's the whole reason the faculty unionized in the first place. The faculty unionizing should have been the sign that everything was seriously broken. Instead, a lot of people kicked the can down the road, the only Chancellor that seemed engaged in seriously fixing SIU problems was Wendler, and he got booted from the Chancellor position here for conflict with the Board and Poshard. 


   
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Funding shift proposal did not pass today 


   
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Good news for the school financially for at least one more year.

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Good news for the school financially for at least one more year.

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Good news for the school financially for at least one more year.

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As I continue to state, the individuals opposed to the changes the chancellor is proposing should be more concerned about the continuing decline in enrollment.  Sticking with the status quo isn't getting it done and will cause more job losses in my opinion than proactively working on much needed changes.


   
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Posted by: SalukiWorld

Funding shift proposal did not pass today 

I'm curious as to why?

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As I continue to state, the individuals opposed to the changes the chancellor is proposing should be more concerned about the continuing decline in enrollment.  Sticking with the status quo isn't getting it done and will cause more job losses in my opinion than proactively working on much needed changes.

Cutting the staff in half or firing them all in a year or two seems pretty easy to me.  No one will step in to protect us like they did for Chicago St.

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The headline in today's editorial section of the Southern is spot on:

Opinion: SIU funding vote was a reprieve for Carbondale. The campus must get its act together.

Stop the $hit show this administration has created and get some people in here that actually know what they're doing.

 

 


   
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 The e needs to separate from the train wreck and make it's own case for fair funding.  Under the current system, Carbondale is just stealing their dollars via the 2 to 1 funds splitting which exists only to protect a bloated administrative staff, extremely short term vision, and ineptitude at Carbondale. 

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