I’ve hinted this could happen before, but we are likely to see a lot of changes to the board of Trustees. This will be an interesting week.
How is this not going to end without an equitable distribution of dollars based on enrollment? Is the new board going to be given a mandate/ultimatum to start correcting issues at the Carbondale school?
“The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody has decided not to see.”
― Ayn Rand
jesus christ. can you stop trolling for 10 minutes? Go find an E board to run us down.
Craving a McBride Special!
Overdue.
Go Dawgs!
This removal is bad news I believe. The two trustees removed are both Carbondale residents. Dr. Ryan also was a prof. in the med school and holds a law degree from Southern. Britton has three degrees from Southern.
I'd like to see Sholar removed immediately. Unfortunately her term is not ending. That a**hole will do her best to undermine Southern. Note she was the ONLY BOT member to recently vote against Gilbert as Chairman and Sambursky as Secretary.
Also note that she supported Criminal Dunn and publicly called out Gilbert and Sambursky because they wanted the executive committee to meet to consider removing Criminal Dunn after his secret undermining of Southern was revealed (like withholding recruiting buy-list money, stealing the med school, splitting the system.) She's probably a big reason that criminal got away with a big settlement rather than getting fired for cause and sued.
Randal Thomas (SIUE), Portwood (SIUE), and Sambursky (SIUE) are at the end of their terms and can be replaced.
Thomas is retiring. I'd like to see Portwood replaced. Since she voted to split the campuses, it's obvious she's not competent to govern over the system. I'd like to see Sambursky stay.
How is this not going to end without an equitable distribution of dollars based on enrollment? Is the new board going to be given a mandate/ultimatum to start correcting issues at the Carbondale school?
If only the world was as simple, as black and white as you would like it to be. It won't and shouldn't be only based on enrollment. The BOT hired a consulting firm to look into how funding should be split, and I'm sure Edwardsville will get a bigger share eventually. However, they don't have PhD programs and their affiliated research. They don't have an Ag School and the large farm that goes with it, a medical school, a Physican's Assistant program, etc. I assume the types of programs offered will be taken into account.
And Southern is wanting to start a School of Nursing. There's a need for it and support from the local medical establishment. The SIUE trustees are against this of course.
First off, Sambursky is an SIUC trustee. The entire board needs a Ctrl-Alt-Del and Sholar is no exception to that. The system needs people outside the bubbles that exist in Carbondale and Edwardsville, that can look at what SIU needs to do to serve the entire region. Not sure SIU lifers have proven they can do that. Considering where enrollment is, the evidence points the other direction.
First off, Sambursky is an SIUC trustee. The entire board needs a Ctrl-Alt-Del and Sholar is no exception to that. The system needs people outside the bubbles that exist in Carbondale and Edwardsville, that can look at what SIU needs to do to serve the entire region. Not sure SIU lifers have proven they can do that. Considering where enrollment is, the evidence points the other direction.
Agree to some extent, but I think there needs to be at least some SIUC/SIUE homers on the board to advocate for their school. Also think they're likely to be more informed about their campuses than an outsider. But some objective trustees would be good.
First off, Sambursky is an SIUC trustee. The entire board needs a Ctrl-Alt-Del and Sholar is no exception to that. The system needs people outside the bubbles that exist in Carbondale and Edwardsville, that can look at what SIU needs to do to serve the entire region. Not sure SIU lifers have proven they can do that. Considering where enrollment is, the evidence points the other direction.
Agree to some extent, but I think there needs to be at least some SIUC/SIUE homers on the board to advocate for their school. Also think they're likely to be more informed about their campuses than an outsider. But some objective trustees would be good.
Considering the state of SIUC, do you want people informed/involved in this hot mess being on the board? Do you think they'd be objective? Would their loyalties lie with what SIU is supposed to be accomplishing or loyal to the status quo?
“The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody has decided not to see.”
― Ayn Rand
First off, Sambursky is an SIUC trustee. The entire board needs a Ctrl-Alt-Del and Sholar is no exception to that. The system needs people outside the bubbles that exist in Carbondale and Edwardsville, that can look at what SIU needs to do to serve the entire region. Not sure SIU lifers have proven they can do that. Considering where enrollment is, the evidence points the other direction.
Agree to some extent, but I think there needs to be at least some SIUC/SIUE homers on the board to advocate for their school. Also think they're likely to be more informed about their campuses than an outsider. But some objective trustees would be good.
Considering the state of SIUC, do you want people informed/involved in this hot mess being on the board? Do you think they'd be objective? Would their loyalties lie with what SIU is supposed to be accomplishing or loyal to the status quo?
I have no doubt they'd like to see Southern fix their issues and turn the ship around. None of the current Trustees had anything to do with the enrollment mess, other than not fixing it and not firing an ineffective President Criminal a long time ago. BOTs are like School Boards. They often know the least about a school's problems and are not truly competent or knowledgeable enough to fix them. People at SIU need to fix it - that's what Montemagmo was hired to do. (although a massive, unproven re-structuring which gets rid of majors and departments won't do it in my opinion - and the BOT didn't question this move because they really have no ideas about how to fix the issues as far as I can see)
First off, Sambursky is an SIUC trustee. The entire board needs a Ctrl-Alt-Del and Sholar is no exception to that. The system needs people outside the bubbles that exist in Carbondale and Edwardsville, that can look at what SIU needs to do to serve the entire region. Not sure SIU lifers have proven they can do that. Considering where enrollment is, the evidence points the other direction.
Agree to some extent, but I think there needs to be at least some SIUC/SIUE homers on the board to advocate for their school. Also think they're likely to be more informed about their campuses than an outsider. But some objective trustees would be good.
Considering the state of SIUC, do you want people informed/involved in this hot mess being on the board? Do you think they'd be objective? Would their loyalties lie with what SIU is supposed to be accomplishing or loyal to the status quo?
I have no doubt they'd like to see Southern fix their issues and turn the ship around. None of the current Trustees had anything to do with the enrollment mess, other than not fixing it and not firing an ineffective President Criminal a long time ago. BOTs are like School Boards. They often know the least about a school's problems and are not truly competent or knowledgeable enough to fix them. People at SIU need to fix it - that's what Montemagmo was hired to do. (although a massive, unproven re-structuring which gets rid of majors and departments won't do it in my opinion - and the BOT didn't question this move because they really have no ideas about how to fix the issues as far as I can see)
Boards specifically exist to step in and fix problems (especially paid boards). Do a little research of role of board members, it's far more than drawing a large check.
What you typed below is the exact reason we need objective people on the board.
"other than not fixing it and not firing an ineffective President Criminal a long time ago"
“The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody has decided not to see.”
― Ayn Rand
Looks like the shift of power just went to Edwardsville. 4 to 3. Edgar Curtis graduated from SIU-E however he is currently the CEO of Memorial Hospital Services which is affiliated with The SIU School of Medicine. So, his appointment maybe considered the School of Medicine's rep.
Looks like the shift of power just went to Edwardsville. 4 to 3. Edgar Curtis graduated from SIU-E however he is currently the CEO of Memorial Hospital Services which is affiliated with The SIU School of Medicine. So, his appointment maybe considered the School of Medicine's rep.
Bad news. Now Edwardsville can steal the medical school. Shocked that Ryan wasn't retained.
