last year we played 13 non-con games plus one exhibition
This year, though Bell has said we need to raise the level of non-con we play it looks like there is little wiggle room to do so---I got the following info from a month old SI article, a Nevada Message Board thread on the Nevada Invitational at Orleans Arena and other sources.
SIU has already signed home contracts for Winthrop, Murray State and St. Louis
Away games would be SIU-E, SEMo and whomever we play in MVC-Mountain West Challenge--hopefully the second or third best team there. A Buy game from someone like Cincinnati or Xavier and we will attemt to get a home and home started with WKU or Middle Tennessee--probably at their place first
All hearing at Nevada Invite again so will play Nevada--also hearing Tulsa and UMass are in it at Vegas but we'll also have two lower level games at C-Dale--hopefully one a D-2 which won't count on the RPI--so that is 11 so far--that would only be 5 home games non-conf --but will we play a couple more total like last year?
last year we played 13 non-con games plus one exhibition
This year, though Bell has said we need to raise the level of non-con we play it looks like there is little wiggle room to do so---I got the following info from a month old SI article, a Nevada Message Board thread on the Nevada Invitational at Orleans Arena and other sources.
SIU has already signed home contracts for Winthrop, Murray State and St. Louis
Away games would be SIU-E, SEMo and whomever we play in MVC-Mountain West Challenge--hopefully the second or third best team there. A Buy game from someone like Cincinnati or Xavier and we will attemt to get a home and home started with WKU or Middle Tennessee--probably at their place first
All hearing at Nevada Invite again so will play Nevada--also hearing Tulsa and UMass are in it at Vegas but we'll also have two lower level games at C-Dale--hopefully one a D-2 which won't count on the RPI--so that is 11 so far--that would only be 5 home games non-conf --but will we play a couple more total like last year?
The rest of the games to schedule will be div II teams. Haven't you been paying attention?
“The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody has decided not to see.”
― Ayn Rand
Tommy is all talk and no action. Look for another garbage schedule next year and nothing will change until we have a new coach and new AD.
They are allowed 10 non con games the 4 Vegas games count as 1
home- STlWinthrop, Murray and a D2
road Semo, SIU-E, Challenge
that leaves 2 games so the same crap as last year minus Louisville and whichever home game it was that was not part of the tournament
yeah get blown out by Nevada, get blown out in the buy game and probably get beat in the new home and home . Lose at least one game to somebody they shouldn’t
At large hopes gone by December again and unless they pull a miracle this is the last year of BBQ ball.
last year we played 13 non-con games plus one exhibition
This year, though Bell has said we need to raise the level of non-con we play it looks like there is little wiggle room to do so---I got the following info from a month old SI article, a Nevada Message Board thread on the Nevada Invitational at Orleans Arena and other sources.
SIU has already signed home contracts for Winthrop, Murray State and St. Louis
Away games would be SIU-E, SEMo and whomever we play in MVC-Mountain West Challenge--hopefully the second or third best team there. A Buy game from someone like Cincinnati or Xavier and we will attemt to get a home and home started with WKU or Middle Tennessee--probably at their place first
All hearing at Nevada Invite again so will play Nevada--also hearing Tulsa and UMass are in it at Vegas but we'll also have two lower level games at C-Dale--hopefully one a D-2 which won't count on the RPI--so that is 11 so far--that would only be 5 home games non-conf --but will we play a couple more total like last year?
Hopefully a D2 team? That’s asinine.
No, you're wrong. As Mike Reis explained it to me if you are going to not play a much higher RPI team at home, it's better to play a D-2 instead of a lower RPI D-1, Even if you win against the lower D-1 at home you will still lower your RPI, with a D-2, the game is not counted win or loss
I really don’t care what he said.
Its absolutely asinine to play a division 2 school. You might as well go on the road and get smashed by Duke and take a pay day.
The idea that you have to play only a lower RPI school or a D2 is also bs. It’s what Hinson wants people to think so he can stack up wins.
I really don’t care what he said.
Its absolutely asinine to play a division 2 school. You might as well go on the road and get smashed by Duke and take a pay day.
The idea that you have to play only a lower RPI school or a D2 is also bs. It’s what Hinson wants people to think so he can stack up wins.
It is absolutely preferable--given the state of our finances--to get slaughtered on the road for money than to beat up on some D2 cupcake.
And so what if the loss wouldn't count? Why not just schedule ALL D-2 teams for the OOC portion of the schedule in that case? (Probably the only reason BH doesn't do that is that it wouldn't be permitted.)
The point is: will the D2 team put people in the seats in the Arena? Generate excitement about the program for anyone other than the most ignorant/casual fans? I think not.
Same old, same old.
(Inflammatory political snark)
The dumbing down of expectations for the flagship program continues. Hell, if Hinson had his way the non conference schedule would consist of nothing but Southern Illinois area grade school teams.
No, you're wrong. As Mike Reis explained it to me if you are going to not play a much higher RPI team at home, it's better to play a D-2 instead of a lower RPI D-1, Even if you win against the lower D-1 at home you will still lower your RPI, with a D-2, the game is not counted win or loss
I do understand what you are saying but it's still "chicken sh!t."
I really don’t care what he said.
Its absolutely asinine to play a division 2 school. You might as well go on the road and get smashed by Duke and take a pay day.
The idea that you have to play only a lower RPI school or a D2 is also bs. It’s what Hinson wants people to think so he can stack up wins.
I completely agree with this. Screw playing a D2 or lower RPI school. Go get another buy game if that's the best this coach and AD can do, so SIU has enough money to buyout the remaining year of the little huckster's contract.
It's time to call out this BS!
SIUSalukis.com: 2017-18 Men's Basketball "20 wins -13 losses"
( http://siusalukis.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbball)
Hefferman:
They (SIU) are coming off their second 20-win season in the last three years, and will have one of the oldest teams in the country if they can hang onto everyone for the second straight year
I'll say this one more time and just leave it there--you can put up this or that d-2 game as a win/loss on your basketball site, but a D-2 is NOT used in figuring RPI. Even if you beat a Low (300) D-1 at home it could lower you RPI -wise--By the way, we don't know if one of the 4 Vegas Tournament games every team gets (2 games) at home before going to play at the Tournament is a D-2 but you take what they assign you. Coaches have nothing to do with it --Vegas Tournament officials are running the tournament not Barry Hinson. Nevada posters on their board seem to think they will get one and don't seem too upset because they didn't want to beat a low-RPI D-1 team and have it lower their season RPI
Hopefully, who's ever in charge of getting the other games left on the Non-Con schedule will come through with another buy game or home and home with some decent D-1 Mid
However you want to spin it, pal.
At this point, it wouldn't surprise me if Barry was paying underdawg. He just can't possibly have expectations this LOW and continue to coddle the clown.
