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(@georgia)
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I quit donating and Mr Williams asked why.  I told him i didnt appreciate SIU conducting athletics business in the dark and not transparently, and that was before last year's shenanigans even.  I will give it a few years before I donate and I currently reject all the 618 phone calls not from contacts I know(Stevie, looking at you haha) 


   
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This is a Hinson thread, not a BOT thread. Take it over there, please.


   
Thunnellvision
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Anybody catch the Jerry Kill comments on PJ Fleck, the current Minnesota football coach? Those comments lead me to believe that Barry doesn’t like men who ‘make it about themselves’. If that’s the case, Barry might wanna pack the bottles of BBQ sauce and take off.

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Gee you think ? Lol 


   
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Posted by: Thunnellvision

Anybody catch the Jerry Kill comments on PJ Fleck, the current Minnesota football coach? Those comments lead me to believe that Barry doesn’t like men who ‘make it about themselves’. If that’s the case, Barry might wanna pack the bottles of BBQ sauce and take off.

Hope you're right. That little BBQ salesman's BS may not pass muster with Kill. His comments about Fleck don't surprise me. Saw Fleck interviewed multiple times on the Big 10 channel and instantly disliked him - rigid weirdo. Goes to Minnesota and has to change the culture:  went from 9 - 4 and bowl win under Claeys to 5 - 7 under the rigid weirdo.

Claeys is now the DC at Washington State, whi ended the season ranked in the top 15 and went 11 - 2!


   
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Hinson after the game reminded me of Yosemite Sam in this clip.  😆 


   
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For all the moaning about SIU's injury woes last season, the Salukis have been one of the healthiest  teams in the league this year. Look around the league, and most teams have been hobbled by significant injuries/departures throughout the season (UNI's best big is taking a medical redshirt and Pickford has missed extended time, Illinois State has been down to 8 available guys for a while now, Valpo has had multiple key guys go down, Drake lost arguably its best player for the whole conference season, Loyola has been without its top defender for much of the MVC season, Missouri State had one of its key bigs quit the team, etc.).

SIU's relative good health this year makes the team's woes all the more indefensible.


   
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Posted by: siudawgs

For all the moaning about SIU's injury woes last season, the Salukis have been one of the healthiest  teams in the league this year. Look around the league, and most teams have been hobbled by significant injuries/departures throughout the season (UNI's best big is taking a medical redshirt and Pickford has missed extended time, Illinois State has been down to 8 available guys for a while now, Valpo has had multiple key guys go down, Drake lost arguably its best player for the whole conference season, Loyola has been without its top defender for much of the MVC season, Missouri State had one of its key bigs quit the team, etc.).

SIU's relative good health this year makes the team's woes all the more indefensible.

You bring up a good point.  Hinson has run into a number of teams that were above or right with SIU in the MVC standings that had depleted rosters due to injuries.  I wonder how much worse SIU's record would be if they had faced some squads that were at full strength?


   
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I'm actually debating on going down to Carbondale for the final home game of the year against Illinois State to show my support for the players and to BOO Hinson. 

 

Also, Hinson lucked into so many games this season with team missing key players due to injuries and couldn't capitalize on it. Both Valpo and Drake were missing key players and they couldn't handle the physicality of a bench player. 

It would also help with they played multiple forwards on the court at once...

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If Hinson reminded you of Yosemite Sam in that clip, I definitely saw a similarity of that camel with our Saluki team....flat as a pancake after he was beaten on the head


   
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Posted by: gammasaluki

If Hinson reminded you of Yosemite Sam in that clip, I definitely saw a similarity of that camel with our Saluki team....flat as a pancake after he was beaten on the head

That’s how I feel right now. Can’t imagine how the players feel. 


   
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This is the summary of the past seven years. Many young men came to Southern to play, to learn and to excel. Many were simply run off. Most were never developed. Many succeeded elsewhere. What was once a family atmosphere at SIU with fans, the team and the coaches is gone. The Arena was once a place where wins were expected and were realized. Saluki fans all over the country were energized by success of their school. All is lost. Wasted. So many is leadership at SIU simply saw what they wanted to see and did not examine, with a clear eye, what they had in front of them. Now, nearly ten wasted years. Sad. Unacceptable. Pathetic. So many young men proudly wore the Saluki uniform and didn't receive any help to improve and succeed. What did I forget? Oh, yes...the bus stuck in the snow. What a perfect picture of a hopeless program.

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Posted by: AccountingDawg

This is the summary of the past seven years. Many young men came to Southern to play, to learn and to excel. Many were simply run off. Most were never developed. Many succeeded elsewhere. What was once a family atmosphere at SIU with fans, the team and the coaches is gone. The Arena was once a place where wins were expected and were realized. Saluki fans all over the country were energized by success of their school. All is lost. Wasted. So many is leadership at SIU simply saw what they wanted to see and did not examine, with a clear eye, what they had in front of them. Now, nearly ten wasted years. Sad. Unacceptable. Pathetic. So many young men proudly wore the Saluki uniform and didn't receive any help to improve and succeed. What did I forget? Oh, yes...the bus stuck in the snow. What a perfect picture of a hopeless program, 

I think this is mostly correct. Good post. It is clear, with the benefit of hindsight, that Hinson was the wrong hire...at the wrong time...and that he overstayed his welcome by a couple of years (at least). The university's leadership is to blame for allowing Hinson endless chances not to succeed, and Hinson is primarily to blame for the malaise that surrounds the program. 

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Posted by: 1987saluki
Posted by: AccountingDawg

This is the summary of the past seven years. Many young men came to Southern to play, to learn and to excel. Many were simply run off. Most were never developed. Many succeeded elsewhere. What was once a family atmosphere at SIU with fans, the team and the coaches is gone. The Arena was once a place where wins were expected and were realized. Saluki fans all over the country were energized by success of their school. All is lost. Wasted. So many is leadership at SIU simply saw what they wanted to see and did not examine, with a clear eye, what they had in front of them. Now, nearly ten wasted years. Sad. Unacceptable. Pathetic. So many young men proudly wore the Saluki uniform and didn't receive any help to improve and succeed. What did I forget? Oh, yes...the bus stuck in the snow. What a perfect picture of a hopeless program, 

I think this is mostly correct. Good post. It is clear, with the benefit of hindsight, that Hinson was the wrong hire...at the wrong time...and that he overstayed his welcome by a couple of years (at least). The university's leadership is to blame for allowing Hinson endless chances not to succeed, and Hinson is primarily to blame for the malaise that surrounds the program. 

Agree. And not to restart a debate because it is water under the bridge at this point, but I would like to point out something. Before this season Rodney Watson was 203-65 overall and 115-47 in conference at USI, with I believe 4  NCAA bids and  one victory out of those bids . This season I believe they are 18-6 and recently beat the number 1 team in the country,  Bellarmine at Bellarmine. He is also the 5th winningest active coach in all of  NCAA Div 2.   Now, we can argue the merits of NCAA Div 2 basketball etc, and Im not trying to say RW would have been the perfect candidate, who is? But just wanted to point out to all who said he couldn't coach that he has had a stellar stint at USI in Evansville and he was a finalist for the job when BH was hired..and....Im not saying he should be a candidate this time, that ship has sailed....Just want to give kudos to Coach Watson for an outstanding career at SIU and  USI. 


   
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Awe christ don't start up with that deadwood again. He has exactly one NCAA win more than Huckster despite high tournament seeds. I'm pretty sure even hucky could stumble in to a tournament win at a D2 school. There have been Fire Rodney signs at the games and there has been a Fire Rodney website. Zero postseason success is the bottom line. Why do you think he is still muddling along at the D2 level? Haven't we had enough mediocre?

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