One thing that I have noticed in some of the threads is how many people are willing to donate their money to the program now that there is new coach my question is why wasn't the donations before or am I missing something
One thing that I have noticed in some of the threads is how many people are willing to donate their money to the program now that there is new coach my question is why wasn't the donations before or am I missing something
I've donated to SIU for multiple years now but this is my first time donating specifically to the NIL fund. I can only speak for myself in responding directly to your question though; I didn't really understand the NIL fund prior and it is still relatively new, no ? I would ask you a similar question... have YOU donated previously? Have you donated yet since the Mulins firing? If not, why ?
One thing that I have noticed in some of the threads is how many people are willing to donate their money to the program now that there is new coach my question is why wasn't the donations before or am I missing something
An administration that, based on the Mullins firing, isn’t content to settle for mediocrity.
New coach that, based on his presser, I like a lot.
Hopeful for the future of SIU basketball.
Those are my reasons.
I have always supported the program and it has been at various degrees depending on my financial situation at the time and yes I will continue to support the programOne thing that I have noticed in some of the threads is how many people are willing to donate their money to the program now that there is new coach my question is why wasn't the donations before or am I missing something
I've donated to SIU for multiple years now but this is my first time donating specifically to the NIL fund. I can only speak for myself in responding directly to your question though; I didn't really understand the NIL fund prior and it is still relatively new, no ? I would ask you a similar question... have YOU donated previously? Have you donated yet since the Mulins firing? If not, why ?
On a related subject does the athletic department have a department wide NIL or is every sport for itself and If there is no department wide NIL why are behind everyone else
One thing that I have noticed in some of the threads is how many people are willing to donate their money to the program now that there is new coach my question is why wasn't the donations before or am I missing something
An administration that, based on the Mullins firing, isn’t content to settle for mediocrity.
New coach that, based on his presser, I like a lot.
Hopeful for the future of SIU basketball.
Those are my reasons.
”Based on his presser…” I'd imagine EVERYONE here loved Mullins at the time of his introductory press conference. It’s easy to love some at this point in the relationship.
I may be in the minority in that I’m just not excited about the coming years yet. I’ll get there with winning, but I still have my concerns.
1. He seemed a bit dismissive of NIL.
2. He doesn’t seem to love using the transfer portal.
3. His last two seasons weren’t great. In fact, worse than Mullins in a worse league.
4. He plays inside-out.
I’m by no means saying this guy won’t work out, as he has done a lot of winning over his career. My main fear is possibly being out of touch with the modern landscape because of the 4 reasons, especially if he wants a lot of freshman which extends this “rebuild” even further.
The new offensive style sounds cool, assuming it translates to wins. But like I said, I bet Mullins’s first presser was pretty good too. I’ll hold my judgement, but I can’t sit and say I’m excited at this very moment. Really hoping I’m proven wrong in early November.
One thing that I have noticed in some of the threads is how many people are willing to donate their money to the program now that there is new coach my question is why wasn't the donations before or am I missing something
An administration that, based on the Mullins firing, isn’t content to settle for mediocrity.
New coach that, based on his presser, I like a lot.
Hopeful for the future of SIU basketball.
Those are my reasons.
”Based on his presser…” I'd imagine EVERYONE here loved Mullins at the time of his introductory press conference. It’s easy to love some at this point in the relationship.
I may be in the minority in that I’m just not excited about the coming years yet. I’ll get there with winning, but I still have my concerns.
1. He seemed a bit dismissive of NIL.2. He doesn’t seem to love using the transfer portal.
3. His last two seasons weren’t great. In fact, worse than Mullins in a worse league.
4. He plays inside-out.I’m by no means saying this guy won’t work out, as he has done a lot of winning over his career. My main fear is possibly being out of touch with the modern landscape because of the 4 reasons, especially if he wants a lot of freshman which extends this “rebuild” even further.
The new offensive style sounds cool, assuming it translates to wins. But like I said, I bet Mullins’s first presser was pretty good too. I’ll hold my judgement, but I can’t sit and say I’m excited at this very moment. Really hoping I’m proven wrong in early November.
Just to respond to number 4 . . 4 of the last 5 truly dominant MVC schools all played inside out. Creighton with McDermott, Loyola through Krutwig, Drake through Brodie, and Indiana State with Avila (they would've reached this level next year if they had the chance). Wichita spread things out very well but also had a trio of guards that may never be matched again in this league. In college, if you can play through a big man that knows how to pass, you've got a chance to win it every year.
One thing that I have noticed in some of the threads is how many people are willing to donate their money to the program now that there is new coach my question is why wasn't the donations before or am I missing something
An administration that, based on the Mullins firing, isn’t content to settle for mediocrity.
New coach that, based on his presser, I like a lot.
Hopeful for the future of SIU basketball.
Those are my reasons.
”Based on his presser…” I'd imagine EVERYONE here loved Mullins at the time of his introductory press conference. It’s easy to love some at this point in the relationship.
I may be in the minority in that I’m just not excited about the coming years yet. I’ll get there with winning, but I still have my concerns.
1. He seemed a bit dismissive of NIL.2. He doesn’t seem to love using the transfer portal.
3. His last two seasons weren’t great. In fact, worse than Mullins in a worse league.
4. He plays inside-out.I’m by no means saying this guy won’t work out, as he has done a lot of winning over his career. My main fear is possibly being out of touch with the modern landscape because of the 4 reasons, especially if he wants a lot of freshman which extends this “rebuild” even further.
The new offensive style sounds cool, assuming it translates to wins. But like I said, I bet Mullins’s first presser was pretty good too. I’ll hold my judgement, but I can’t sit and say I’m excited at this very moment. Really hoping I’m proven wrong in early November.
Just to respond to number 4 . . 4 of the last 5 truly dominant MVC schools all played inside out. Creighton with McDermott, Loyola through Krutwig, Drake through Brodie, and Indiana State with Avila (they would've reached this level next year if they had the chance). Wichita spread things out very well but also had a trio of guards that may never be matched again in this league. In college, if you can play through a big man that knows how to pass, you've got a chance to win it every year.
Maybe so, but it certainly isn't working out for NC State and DJ Burns !!! 😉 🤣
One thing that I have noticed in some of the threads is how many people are willing to donate their money to the program now that there is new coach my question is why wasn't the donations before or am I missing something
An administration that, based on the Mullins firing, isn’t content to settle for mediocrity.
New coach that, based on his presser, I like a lot.
Hopeful for the future of SIU basketball.
Those are my reasons.
”Based on his presser…” I'd imagine EVERYONE here loved Mullins at the time of his introductory press conference. It’s easy to love some at this point in the relationship.
I may be in the minority in that I’m just not excited about the coming years yet. I’ll get there with winning, but I still have my concerns.
1. He seemed a bit dismissive of NIL.2. He doesn’t seem to love using the transfer portal.
3. His last two seasons weren’t great. In fact, worse than Mullins in a worse league.
4. He plays inside-out.I’m by no means saying this guy won’t work out, as he has done a lot of winning over his career. My main fear is possibly being out of touch with the modern landscape because of the 4 reasons, especially if he wants a lot of freshman which extends this “rebuild” even further.
The new offensive style sounds cool, assuming it translates to wins. But like I said, I bet Mullins’s first presser was pretty good too. I’ll hold my judgement, but I can’t sit and say I’m excited at this very moment. Really hoping I’m proven wrong in early November.
Just to respond to number 4 . . 4 of the last 5 truly dominant MVC schools all played inside out. Creighton with McDermott, Loyola through Krutwig, Drake through Brodie, and Indiana State with Avila (they would've reached this level next year if they had the chance). Wichita spread things out very well but also had a trio of guards that may never be matched again in this league. In college, if you can play through a big man that knows how to pass, you've got a chance to win it every year.
Maybe so, but it certainly isn't working out for NC State and DJ Burns !!! 😉 🤣
There is, of course, an exception to every rule. Nobody seems to be able to guard that dude lol
One thing that I have noticed in some of the threads is how many people are willing to donate their money to the program now that there is new coach my question is why wasn't the donations before or am I missing something
An administration that, based on the Mullins firing, isn’t content to settle for mediocrity.
New coach that, based on his presser, I like a lot.
Hopeful for the future of SIU basketball.
Those are my reasons.
”Based on his presser…” I'd imagine EVERYONE here loved Mullins at the time of his introductory press conference. It’s easy to love some at this point in the relationship.
I may be in the minority in that I’m just not excited about the coming years yet. I’ll get there with winning, but I still have my concerns.
1. He seemed a bit dismissive of NIL.2. He doesn’t seem to love using the transfer portal.
3. His last two seasons weren’t great. In fact, worse than Mullins in a worse league.
4. He plays inside-out.I’m by no means saying this guy won’t work out, as he has done a lot of winning over his career. My main fear is possibly being out of touch with the modern landscape because of the 4 reasons, especially if he wants a lot of freshman which extends this “rebuild” even further.
The new offensive style sounds cool, assuming it translates to wins. But like I said, I bet Mullins’s first presser was pretty good too. I’ll hold my judgement, but I can’t sit and say I’m excited at this very moment. Really hoping I’m proven wrong in early November.
Just to respond to number 4 . . 4 of the last 5 truly dominant MVC schools all played inside out. Creighton with McDermott, Loyola through Krutwig, Drake through Brodie, and Indiana State with Avila (they would've reached this level next year if they had the chance). Wichita spread things out very well but also had a trio of guards that may never be matched again in this league. In college, if you can play through a big man that knows how to pass, you've got a chance to win it every year.
So just so to respond….the only one that here is relevant is Krutwig. McDermott was a presence not just inside….Tucker was the go to guy at Drake so to say Drake worked through Brodie would be a stretch.
Also Creighton hasn’t been in the MVC in a decade…basketball has changed in the last 10 years. Hello Steph Curry.
There are exceptions for inside out working….but the majority of college basketball has switched to guard oriented offenses. If he can get it to work….I’m good with it.
If we are being completely honest, I was significantly more excited about the Mullins hiring, but that was almost purely due to his NAME and link to the University (former player). I have a few concerns with the new coach as well, one is age, the other is the transfer portal, but that is where I am hoping Howard comes in. With regards to the record, as I mentioned in another post, while his team's record was not optimal, the difference between him and Mullins (since you brought it up) was that his team was getting better at the end of the season whereas Mullins team regressed. Wright St finished the season 9-4 with 2 of those losses, including in the Horizon tournament, coming in OT (each by 2pts). I fully acknowledge that I am cherry picking stats, but to me they were trending up. SIU went 7-6, albeit with 3 OT losses, ending the season with 3 consecutive losses, of which 2 were double digit margins.
One thing that I have noticed in some of the threads is how many people are willing to donate their money to the program now that there is new coach my question is why wasn't the donations before or am I missing something
An administration that, based on the Mullins firing, isn’t content to settle for mediocrity.
New coach that, based on his presser, I like a lot.
Hopeful for the future of SIU basketball.
Those are my reasons.
”Based on his presser…” I'd imagine EVERYONE here loved Mullins at the time of his introductory press conference. It’s easy to love some at this point in the relationship.
I'm on record as saying Nagy was a pretty good hire -- probably would give it a solid 7 out of 10, with the caveats being the portal and his final two years at Wright State -- but I'd guess every SIU coaching hire over the past 50 years has "won the press conference," except probably Hinson. Even Allen Van Winkle made a good first impression -- probably anyone would've made a good impression after the Gottfried years. One of his quotes was something like, "We've got to walk before we can run, but we want to be running as soon as possible." Sounded good at the time, but there wasn't much "walking" or "running" -- mostly stumbling and falling.
Hilarious: I remember that.
I'm not even sure Van Winkle would have been fired had the "discrepancies" and such not been found. Thankfully they were. Embarrassing.
(Inflammatory political snark)
One thing that I have noticed in some of the threads is how many people are willing to donate their money to the program now that there is new coach my question is why wasn't the donations before or am I missing something
An administration that, based on the Mullins firing, isn’t content to settle for mediocrity.
New coach that, based on his presser, I like a lot.
Hopeful for the future of SIU basketball.
Those are my reasons.
”Based on his presser…” I'd imagine EVERYONE here loved Mullins at the time of his introductory press conference. It’s easy to love some at this point in the relationship.
I may be in the minority in that I’m just not excited about the coming years yet. I’ll get there with winning, but I still have my concerns.
1. He seemed a bit dismissive of NIL.2. He doesn’t seem to love using the transfer portal.
3. His last two seasons weren’t great. In fact, worse than Mullins in a worse league.
4. He plays inside-out.I’m by no means saying this guy won’t work out, as he has done a lot of winning over his career. My main fear is possibly being out of touch with the modern landscape because of the 4 reasons, especially if he wants a lot of freshman which extends this “rebuild” even further.
The new offensive style sounds cool, assuming it translates to wins. But like I said, I bet Mullins’s first presser was pretty good too. I’ll hold my judgement, but I can’t sit and say I’m excited at this very moment. Really hoping I’m proven wrong in early November.
Just to respond to number 4 . . 4 of the last 5 truly dominant MVC schools all played inside out. Creighton with McDermott, Loyola through Krutwig, Drake through Brodie, and Indiana State with Avila (they would've reached this level next year if they had the chance). Wichita spread things out very well but also had a trio of guards that may never be matched again in this league. In college, if you can play through a big man that knows how to pass, you've got a chance to win it every year.
So just so to respond….the only one that here is relevant is Krutwig. McDermott was a presence not just inside….Tucker was the go to guy at Drake so to say Drake worked through Brodie would be a stretch.
Also Creighton hasn’t been in the MVC in a decade…basketball has changed in the last 10 years. Hello Steph Curry.
There are exceptions for inside out working….but the majority of college basketball has switched to guard oriented offenses. If he can get it to work….I’m good with it.
We would disagree, ultimately. Drake’s best offense was mostly created through Brodie’s passing from the elbow and on post ups, utilizing back cuts and ball movement. When they were most beatable was when Tucker ISO’d and they ran stuff through him (unless he got hot which he occasionally did). If you don’t have a true great big man it’s much harder to run an effective pick and roll, which is the basis of every offense nowadays. Great guard play is so important, but basketball’s history will point to needing great players that are 6’7” and up to consistently be at the top. Not many Curry’s and Isaiah’s running around.
I agree. While DeVries was clearly their best player, they DID run a lot of the offense through Brodie.
