If SIU beats UNI and Belmont beats Evansville SIU would get 4th place due to our higher NET ranking. 1st tiebreaker is head to head, which we split, 2nd tiebreaker is NET ranking. If UNI beats SIU and Belmont beats Evansville UNI finishes 4th due to their 1-1 record during the regular season and UNI's higher NET ranking. If SIU loses and Belmont wins we finish 6th. If SIU and Belmont both lose we finish 5th.So what's the tiebreaker rules again should SIU and Belmont end up tied for 4th? Since they split the series between them, is it NET ranking next?Belmont crushes Murray. 3 way tie for 4th.
Of course, this is assuming the Salukis can show up and win on Sunday. Otherwise, say hello to a Thursday game in the Lou.
X still in with 2 mins left down 23 is pretty bad. Hopefully they take him out during this timeout
Trey Miller is so bad Mullins had to take him out during garbage time.
Margin of victory doesn't matter. 1st tiebreaker is head to head, 2nd tiebreaker is end of season NET ranking. If more than 2 teams are tied it comes down to a round robin record between the tied teams. SIU can't conceivably finish tied with more than one team.So what's the tiebreaker rules again should SIU and Belmont end up tied for 4th? Since they split the series between them, is it NET ranking next?Belmont crushes Murray. 3 way tie for 4th.
Of course, this is assuming the Salukis can show up and win on Sunday. Otherwise, say hello to a Thursday game in the Lou.
Same. question - they had the bigger margin of victory
Drake-UIC now into a THIRD overtime. I can't say Drake's NCAA at-large hopes are totally gone yet, but a loss here would just about do it.
They have no chance for an NCAA at large. Net of 46. 2 quad 3 (bad losses). Indiana State is squarely on the bubble and their NET is 31.Drake-UIC now into a THIRD overtime. I can't say Drake's NCAA at-large hopes are totally gone yet, but a loss here would just about do it.
Good news, Salukis only lost by 19. The shot at the buzzer by Kennard Davis, initially waived off by the blind ref was counted upon further review. We now have momentum heading into the Mega Bowl!
If you bet a big teaser and had the Salukis +20 you are now happy.
The NET is such a horribly biased ranking system. Just look at the Mountain West for one huge example. Right now they've got at least 5, and possibly 6 teams that could make the NCAA tourney, but the NET rankings actually have that conference ranked 7th(!) behind the Pac-12, which has just two teams worthy right now of making the NCAA tourney.They have no chance for an NCAA at large. Net of 46. 2 quad 3 (bad losses). Indiana State is squarely on the bubble and their NET is 31.Drake-UIC now into a THIRD overtime. I can't say Drake's NCAA at-large hopes are totally gone yet, but a loss here would just about do it.
The ONLY reason why the Mountain West is behind the Power 6 conferences in the NET is because someone is intentionally - INTENTIONALLY - keeping them that low. By comparison, the Mountain West is 4th overall in RPI, but you know the bigs had to trash the RPI because they couldn't tweak it like they're doing right now with the NET. Seriously, nobody really knows how to compute the NET, since there are hidden factors in there that are never revealed to the public. At least with the RPI, you knew exactly how it worked, so no funny business went on with it.
By the way... Drake's RPI before tonight (and they just won that 3-OT game, by the way) was #18. EIGHTEEN.
In the old days when the RPI ruled the land, an #18 RPI not only put you in the Dance, but you were looking at a single-digit seed for sure. But nope, not now with the crappy NET - Drake's not even on most prognosticators' bubble watches with that #46 NET.
I agree regarding the RPI and the NET, but Drake's not even in the conversation for an at large. It's not right and a shame, but that's where we are at in todays NCAA men's basketball.The NET is such a horribly biased ranking system. Just look at the Mountain West for one huge example. Right now they've got at least 5, and possibly 6 teams that could make the NCAA tourney, but the NET rankings actually have that conference ranked 7th(!) behind the Pac-12, which has just two teams worthy right now of making the NCAA tourney.They have no chance for an NCAA at large. Net of 46. 2 quad 3 (bad losses). Indiana State is squarely on the bubble and their NET is 31.Drake-UIC now into a THIRD overtime. I can't say Drake's NCAA at-large hopes are totally gone yet, but a loss here would just about do it.
The ONLY reason why the Mountain West is behind the Power 6 conferences in the NET is because someone is intentionally - INTENTIONALLY - keeping them that low. By comparison, the Mountain West is 4th overall in RPI, but you know the bigs had to trash the RPI because they couldn't tweak it like they're doing right now with the NET. Seriously, nobody really knows how to compute the NET, since there are hidden factors in there that are never revealed to the public. At least with the RPI, you knew exactly how it worked, so no funny business went on with it.
By the way... Drake's RPI before tonight (and they just won that 3-OT game, by the way) was #18. EIGHTEEN.
In the old days when the RPI ruled the land, an #18 RPI not only put you in the Dance, but you were looking at a single-digit seed for sure. But nope, not now with the crappy NET - Drake's not even on most prognosticators' bubble watches with that #46 NET.
I'm looking at some of the Power conference bubble teams' NET rankings, and why they're considered on the bubble with a worse NET than Drake is, well, just yet another way to screw over the little guys.I agree regarding the RPI and the NET, but Drake's not even in the conversation for an at large. It's not right and a shame, but that's where we are at in todays NCAA men's basketball.The NET is such a horribly biased ranking system. Just look at the Mountain West for one huge example. Right now they've got at least 5, and possibly 6 teams that could make the NCAA tourney, but the NET rankings actually have that conference ranked 7th(!) behind the Pac-12, which has just two teams worthy right now of making the NCAA tourney.They have no chance for an NCAA at large. Net of 46. 2 quad 3 (bad losses). Indiana State is squarely on the bubble and their NET is 31.Drake-UIC now into a THIRD overtime. I can't say Drake's NCAA at-large hopes are totally gone yet, but a loss here would just about do it.
The ONLY reason why the Mountain West is behind the Power 6 conferences in the NET is because someone is intentionally - INTENTIONALLY - keeping them that low. By comparison, the Mountain West is 4th overall in RPI, but you know the bigs had to trash the RPI because they couldn't tweak it like they're doing right now with the NET. Seriously, nobody really knows how to compute the NET, since there are hidden factors in there that are never revealed to the public. At least with the RPI, you knew exactly how it worked, so no funny business went on with it.
By the way... Drake's RPI before tonight (and they just won that 3-OT game, by the way) was #18. EIGHTEEN.
In the old days when the RPI ruled the land, an #18 RPI not only put you in the Dance, but you were looking at a single-digit seed for sure. But nope, not now with the crappy NET - Drake's not even on most prognosticators' bubble watches with that #46 NET.
Here are a few Power teams considered on the bubble right now, with their NET rankings:
Virginia - 47
Northwestern - 52
Utah - 53
Providence - 54
Texas A&M - 57
Seton Hall - 61
Ole Miss - 75
If Drake's #46 NET puts them far off the radar while the teams listed above are far ahead of Drake when it comes to the odds of making the NCAA tourney, what's the point of even having the NET when you've got scores of teams with worse NET numbers that will assuredly get at-large bids?
And of course, Drake's biggest non-con win was at Nevada, and that SHOULD be a huge plus on their resume... but because it's not a win over a supposed Power conference team (again, the Mountain West gets no love from the NET), Drake isn't getting the push from that win like they should.
Bradley was really good tonight, especially in the second half.
Pisspoor effort on the glass.
I think it would be a much different game if they play a third time next weekend. Couldn’t be much worse.
Mid Major=Major screw job! As always...I'm looking at some of the Power conference bubble teams' NET rankings, and why they're considered on the bubble with a worse NET than Drake is, well, just yet another way to screw over the little guys.I agree regarding the RPI and the NET, but Drake's not even in the conversation for an at large. It's not right and a shame, but that's where we are at in todays NCAA men's basketball.The NET is such a horribly biased ranking system. Just look at the Mountain West for one huge example. Right now they've got at least 5, and possibly 6 teams that could make the NCAA tourney, but the NET rankings actually have that conference ranked 7th(!) behind the Pac-12, which has just two teams worthy right now of making the NCAA tourney.They have no chance for an NCAA at large. Net of 46. 2 quad 3 (bad losses). Indiana State is squarely on the bubble and their NET is 31.Drake-UIC now into a THIRD overtime. I can't say Drake's NCAA at-large hopes are totally gone yet, but a loss here would just about do it.
The ONLY reason why the Mountain West is behind the Power 6 conferences in the NET is because someone is intentionally - INTENTIONALLY - keeping them that low. By comparison, the Mountain West is 4th overall in RPI, but you know the bigs had to trash the RPI because they couldn't tweak it like they're doing right now with the NET. Seriously, nobody really knows how to compute the NET, since there are hidden factors in there that are never revealed to the public. At least with the RPI, you knew exactly how it worked, so no funny business went on with it.
By the way... Drake's RPI before tonight (and they just won that 3-OT game, by the way) was #18. EIGHTEEN.
In the old days when the RPI ruled the land, an #18 RPI not only put you in the Dance, but you were looking at a single-digit seed for sure. But nope, not now with the crappy NET - Drake's not even on most prognosticators' bubble watches with that #46 NET.
Here are a few Power teams considered on the bubble right now, with their NET rankings:
Virginia - 47
Northwestern - 52
Utah - 53
Providence - 54
Texas A&M - 57
Seton Hall - 61
Ole Miss - 75If Drake's #46 NET puts them far off the radar while the teams listed above are far ahead of Drake when it comes to the odds of making the NCAA tourney, what's the point of even having the NET when you've got scores of teams with worse NET numbers that will assuredly get at-large bids?
And of course, Drake's biggest non-con win was at Nevada, and that SHOULD be a huge plus on their resume... but because it's not a win over a supposed Power conference team (again, the Mountain West gets no love from the NET), Drake isn't getting the push from that win like they should.
I'm looking at some of the Power conference bubble teams' NET rankings, and why they're considered on the bubble with a worse NET than Drake is, well, just yet another way to screw over the little guys.I agree regarding the RPI and the NET, but Drake's not even in the conversation for an at large. It's not right and a shame, but that's where we are at in todays NCAA men's basketball.The NET is such a horribly biased ranking system. Just look at the Mountain West for one huge example. Right now they've got at least 5, and possibly 6 teams that could make the NCAA tourney, but the NET rankings actually have that conference ranked 7th(!) behind the Pac-12, which has just two teams worthy right now of making the NCAA tourney.They have no chance for an NCAA at large. Net of 46. 2 quad 3 (bad losses). Indiana State is squarely on the bubble and their NET is 31.Drake-UIC now into a THIRD overtime. I can't say Drake's NCAA at-large hopes are totally gone yet, but a loss here would just about do it.
The ONLY reason why the Mountain West is behind the Power 6 conferences in the NET is because someone is intentionally - INTENTIONALLY - keeping them that low. By comparison, the Mountain West is 4th overall in RPI, but you know the bigs had to trash the RPI because they couldn't tweak it like they're doing right now with the NET. Seriously, nobody really knows how to compute the NET, since there are hidden factors in there that are never revealed to the public. At least with the RPI, you knew exactly how it worked, so no funny business went on with it.
By the way... Drake's RPI before tonight (and they just won that 3-OT game, by the way) was #18. EIGHTEEN.
In the old days when the RPI ruled the land, an #18 RPI not only put you in the Dance, but you were looking at a single-digit seed for sure. But nope, not now with the crappy NET - Drake's not even on most prognosticators' bubble watches with that #46 NET.
Here are a few Power teams considered on the bubble right now, with their NET rankings:
Virginia - 47
Northwestern - 52
Utah - 53
Providence - 54
Texas A&M - 57
Seton Hall - 61
Ole Miss - 75If Drake's #46 NET puts them far off the radar while the teams listed above are far ahead of Drake when it comes to the odds of making the NCAA tourney, what's the point of even having the NET when you've got scores of teams with worse NET numbers that will assuredly get at-large bids?
And of course, Drake's biggest non-con win was at Nevada, and that SHOULD be a huge plus on their resume... but because it's not a win over a supposed Power conference team (again, the Mountain West gets no love from the NET), Drake isn't getting the push from that win like they should.
Northwestern should be way better than 52. Beat Illinois, Purdue, Michigan St., Indiana twice. Won on the road at Maryland tonight. Alone in 3rd place. They're not a bubble team.
No question Drake could beat a lot of teams that will be in the NCAA. I question whether InSU gets in if they don't win the tournament. Certainly should but mid-major...
I would hate like hell for Bradley to win the tournament.
We were awful. Not much went right for us. The players looked a lot like I felt which was basically disinterested due to lack of consequences… we all know it comes down to Sunday, they looked like they knew it too. Bradley on the other hand was flying around on their senior night and kicked our butts.
couple points, that seemed to be a really bad match up for Scottie and Trent has to start knocking down shots again in a hurry. We see him up with wide open 3s multiple times with the game still within reach and he couldn’t hit, we need his stroke back it was a game changer. We don’t need X to play hero ball but there are times where he is passing up some step backs where he gets space that he was shooting with confidence earlier, I’d like to see him take those again, passing them up is leading to worse shots later in the clock.
overall though, I was over this game at halftime. The good news, there’s no way the Salukis aren’t about to have a great couple days of practice after that beat down. Turn the page, win the one we had our eyes on anyway. A top 4 finish would be great. Don’t love the prospect of getting to play a blazing hot Belmont team on Friday, but that’s not within our control, getting the bye is. Hoping for a huge crowd Sunday!
