What scares me is Bryan is getting his guys. Domask is the only recruit he has signed that has been consistently a D1 level talent . Remember Hinson signed Lance.
You do have to wonder who is out there recruiting these guys, who is judging them and deciding they are mid-major Division I level talent.
Obviously, Bryan has the final sign-off on them. But it really is stunning the overall showing of EVERYONE outside of Domask and Jones this season.
I’m concerned about next year. I never would have imagined that our opener at Arkansas Whatever U would have been telling for this season. Thought it was a fluke.
It wasn’t.
Thankfully, the conference tournament starts 3 weeks from today.
Stop with the recruiting thing. it is total nonsense. These are almost all players who had offers from schools as big or bigger than SIU. We can go through the list, but it isn't like SIU is finding kids being offered by D2 schools and pursuing them.
SVP - St Bon, Loyola among others
D'avanzo - Depaul
D'amico - Loyola, SLU
Banks - Green Bay, Ball State
Trent Brown - UIC, was on a visit to St. Marys
Lance and Domask had legit offers
Mulia had legit offers out of JUCO
The point is they absolutely are mid major talents and were recruited by lots of mid major programs.
What scares me is Bryan is getting his guys. Domask is the only recruit he has signed that has been consistently a D1 level talent . Remember Hinson signed Lance.
You do have to wonder who is out there recruiting these guys, who is judging them and deciding they are mid-major Division I level talent.
Obviously, Bryan has the final sign-off on them. But it really is stunning the overall showing of EVERYONE outside of Domask and Jones this season.
I’m concerned about next year. I never would have imagined that our opener at Arkansas Whatever U would have been telling for this season. Thought it was a fluke.
It wasn’t.
Thankfully, the conference tournament starts 3 weeks from today.
Stop with the recruiting thing. it is total nonsense. These are almost all players who had offers from schools as big or bigger than SIU. We can go through the list, but it isn't like SIU is finding kids being offered by D2 schools and pursuing them.
SVP - St Bon, Loyola among others
D'avanzo - Depaul
D'amico - Loyola, SLU
Banks - Green Bay, Ball State
Trent Brown - UIC, was on a visit to St. Marys
Lance and Domask had legit offers
Mulia had legit offers out of JUCO
The point is they absolutely are mid major talents and were recruited by lots of mid major programs.
Then the problem is how they are being coached. Which is an even worse indictment of Bryan Mullins as a head coach.
We can do this back and forth all damn day. The season is almost over.
This team is not good. It’s not even average vs a weak schedule.
That is clear to everyone who doesn’t have maroon blinders on.
What scares me is Bryan is getting his guys. Domask is the only recruit he has signed that has been consistently a D1 level talent . Remember Hinson signed Lance.
You do have to wonder who is out there recruiting these guys, who is judging them and deciding they are mid-major Division I level talent.
Obviously, Bryan has the final sign-off on them. But it really is stunning the overall showing of EVERYONE outside of Domask and Jones this season.
I’m concerned about next year. I never would have imagined that our opener at Arkansas Whatever U would have been telling for this season. Thought it was a fluke.
It wasn’t.
Thankfully, the conference tournament starts 3 weeks from today.
Stop with the recruiting thing. it is total nonsense. These are almost all players who had offers from schools as big or bigger than SIU. We can go through the list, but it isn't like SIU is finding kids being offered by D2 schools and pursuing them.
SVP - St Bon, Loyola among others
D'avanzo - Depaul
D'amico - Loyola, SLU
Banks - Green Bay, Ball State
Trent Brown - UIC, was on a visit to St. Marys
Lance and Domask had legit offers
Mulia had legit offers out of JUCO
The point is they absolutely are mid major talents and were recruited by lots of mid major programs.
Your list is misleading, as we all know there are shades of gray in recruiting, differences between interest and offers, schools cooling on kids they were interested in at one point, etc. Don't make it sound like this staff so far has won a whole bunch of impressive recruiting wars for big-time talent. Not the case.
While I don't think the roster is bottom-barrel from a talent standpoint, again, the results are the results (especially against top-150 type teams), and it's easy to see it's a roster that does not stack up favorably with good teams when it comes to high-level scorers, athleticism and length.
What scares me is Bryan is getting his guys. Domask is the only recruit he has signed that has been consistently a D1 level talent . Remember Hinson signed Lance.
You do have to wonder who is out there recruiting these guys, who is judging them and deciding they are mid-major Division I level talent.
Obviously, Bryan has the final sign-off on them. But it really is stunning the overall showing of EVERYONE outside of Domask and Jones this season.
I’m concerned about next year. I never would have imagined that our opener at Arkansas Whatever U would have been telling for this season. Thought it was a fluke.
It wasn’t.
Thankfully, the conference tournament starts 3 weeks from today.
Stop with the recruiting thing. it is total nonsense. These are almost all players who had offers from schools as big or bigger than SIU. We can go through the list, but it isn't like SIU is finding kids being offered by D2 schools and pursuing them.
SVP - St Bon, Loyola among others
D'avanzo - Depaul
D'amico - Loyola, SLU
Banks - Green Bay, Ball State
Trent Brown - UIC, was on a visit to St. Marys
Lance and Domask had legit offers
Mulia had legit offers out of JUCO
The point is they absolutely are mid major talents and were recruited by lots of mid major programs.
Then the problem is how they are being coached. Which is an even worse indictment of Bryan Mullins as a head coach.
We can do this back and forth all damn day. The season is almost over.
This team is not good. It’s not even average vs a weak schedule.
That is clear to everyone who doesn’t have maroon blinders on.
I don't think they are bad players. I don't think they are being coached poorly. I think the problem is diversity. They are all so similar. I have said time and time again we have to go find a couple of dudes. Top level athletes. I have been critical of that. I think it will happen though.
I think SIU is close but I also don’t think it’s an easy fix. The transfer portal is crazy and can be very beneficial but you’re going to have to find players that buy into your system and are okay with playing one of the slowest paces in college basketball, it’s not an easy sell in today’s modern game when guys want to run up and down the court and shoot 3’s. And it’s not like Southern Illinois is an amazing sell to begin with.
Ebube, Hornecker, & Wonders were all good gets, too. We just have to develop them. Much of that is on the players and how hard they’re willing to work. Jevon is currently recruiting the #1 Juco Guard in the country and has a good chance of getting him. He has 3 years of eligibility left. If we get him, I think we will all be happy with next year’s team. If not, I believe we will be looking at the transfer portal. We really need an experienced, athletic guard to compliment Lance & Dalton. Otherwise, we’re really going to miss Coupet next year.
I think SIU is close but I also don’t think it’s an easy fix. The transfer portal is crazy and can be very beneficial but you’re going to have to find players that buy into your system and are okay with playing one of the slowest paces in college basketball, it’s not an easy sell in today’s modern game when guys want to run up and down the court and shoot 3’s. And it’s not like Southern Illinois is an amazing sell to begin with.
This is another problem.
Even Mike Reis had the sense (not that he wouldn’t in general) to ask Ben Coupet something along the lines of “is it tough to give all this effort defensively and have no results in winning games”
Athletes are not gonna want to play for a slow walk it up team that wants to grind it out.
It’s not fun for players and it not fun for fans watching the games.
I don’t think we are close. We have to get a couple impact players for next season immediately.
Ebube, Hornecker, & Wonders were all good gets, too. We just have to develop them. Much of that is on the players and how hard they’re willing to work. Jevon is currently recruiting the #1 Juco Guard in the country and has a good chance of getting him. He has 3 years of eligibility left. If we get him, I think we will all be happy with next year’s team. If not, I believe we will be looking at the transfer portal. We really need an experienced, athletic guard to compliment Lance & Dalton. Otherwise, we’re really going to miss Coupet next year.
It's hard to envision scoring a recruiting coup like that with the way the team has been playing at the offensive end. If they can pull it off, that would be cause for celebration.
I share your optimism about the three kids you mentioned, but we'll have to be patient and see how they develop.
If you don't think an extra year f experience makes a difference I suggest you look at the women's team last year middle of the pack this year they are competing for first in the valley have been competitive out of conference with basically everything being the same as last year
Our staff was recruiting Antonio Reeves as well, weren't they? I think we can all imagine what this year's team would look like with Reeves in the fold; maybe we can convince Antonio to do a Donovan Clayesque conference transfer to SIU?
Our staff was recruiting Antonio Reeves as well, weren't they? I think we can all imagine what this year's team would look like with Reeves in the fold; maybe we can convince Antonio to do a Donovan Clayesque conference transfer to SIU?
They recruited Terry Roberts too who might be the 2nd best guard in the conference now. Completely changed Bradley’s fortunes
Our staff was recruiting Antonio Reeves as well, weren't they? I think we can all imagine what this year's team would look like with Reeves in the fold; maybe we can convince Antonio to do a Donovan Clayesque conference transfer to SIU?
They recruited Terry Roberts too who might be the 2nd best guard in the conference now. Completely changed Bradley’s fortunes
Yeah our pal Spike may want to cover his ears but Roberts and Leons for Bradley are an example of how landing a couple quality JUCO recruits can pay quick dividends. Quality being the operative word.
This has not been Bryan's style every year. I think we see games where he thinks his talent is inferior and decides that a lower possession game against teams that are experienced and really good gives us a better chance of competing. If we make just a few open shots he would be right too. We had every chance to pick off Loyola, Drake and UNI at home, really we should have, it just simply never went our way. Let's hope super seniors moving on, us being a year older and just some good fortune changes that next season.
This has not been Bryan's style every year. I think we see games where he thinks his talent is inferior and decides that a lower possession game against teams that are experienced and really good gives us a better chance of competing. If we make just a few open shots he would be right too. We had every chance to pick off Loyola, Drake and UNI at home, really we should have, it just simply never went our way. Let's hope super seniors moving on, us being a year older and just some good fortune changes that next season.
They were just as slow paced in Mullins’ first year. They were 337th in the country in adjusted tempo in 2020 (64.2) and then took a bit of a step up to 274th last year (66.2) and now they’re back down to 349th this year (62.4)
The average possession length is actually identical this year as 2020 (19.6 seconds per possession). Last year they sped up a bit to 18.5 seconds per possession and that seemed to impact their defense.
Ive attached their adjusted tempo, adjusted offense, and adjusted defense below. The bottom number is what they rank nationally. This is Mullins’ best defensive team.
This has not been Bryan's style every year. I think we see games where he thinks his talent is inferior and decides that a lower possession game against teams that are experienced and really good gives us a better chance of competing. If we make just a few open shots he would be right too. We had every chance to pick off Loyola, Drake and UNI at home, really we should have, it just simply never went our way. Let's hope super seniors moving on, us being a year older and just some good fortune changes that next season.
They were just as slow paced in Mullins’ first year. They were 337th in the country in adjusted tempo in 2020 (64.2) and then took a bit of a step up to 274th last year (66.2) and now they’re back down to 349th this year (62.4)
The average possession length is actually identical this year as 2020 (19.6 seconds per possession). Last year they sped up a bit to 18.5 seconds per possession and that seemed to impact their defense.
Ive attached their adjusted tempo, adjusted offense, and adjusted defense below. The bottom number is what they rank nationally. This is Mullins’ best defensive team.
Interesting, I don't remember having so many crazy low scoring games early on. I wonder if it isn't so much a pace of play thing as a shot selection thing. I often hear them say pass up good shots to get great shots but sometimes we pass up good shots and end up with really bad shots at the end of the shot clock. I get the sentiment but usually when you say that you are talking about one more pass on a ball reversal to an even more wide open shooter, or passing up and open 3 to a back cut for a dunk. Perhaps we should emphasize taking good shots if the next passes is not leading to a great shot directly.
