No it is not disrespectful! If we take Robbie Avila where is he the last two years?
Again wildly disrespectful to Schertz. Indiana State is not a one man team. And they beat us out for Conwell and Swope in the portal this offseason as well. What Schertz is doing at Indiana State is amazing. They have one of the lowest funded programs in the conference but he gets the right players and he’s a winner. It took him 2 years to build a team that could compete and it took him 3 years to build a team that has a chance at making the NCAA’s.
I am not saying they are a one man team, but do those parts all join the team if the original domino does not fall? We will never know.
No it is not disrespectful! If we take Robbie Avila where is he the last two years?
Again wildly disrespectful to Schertz. Indiana State is not a one man team. And they beat us out for Conwell and Swope in the portal this offseason as well. What Schertz is doing at Indiana State is amazing. They have one of the lowest funded programs in the conference but he gets the right players and he’s a winner. It took him 2 years to build a team that could compete and it took him 3 years to build a team that has a chance at making the NCAA’s.
I am not saying they are a one man team, but do those parts all join the team if the original domino does not fall? We will never know.
What would Mullins be without Domask? I don’t understand this hypothetical exercise
https://twitter.com/ThePortalReport/status/1766486141757243444
The first of many I'm afraid.
Wow. He didn't even wait to see who the next coach was going to be?
That's my definition of the rats leaving the sinking ship!
Might have done that if Mullins had stayed. He's from Chicago - probably end up at Loyola or DePaul.
No it is not disrespectful! If we take Robbie Avila where is he the last two years?
Again wildly disrespectful to Schertz. Indiana State is not a one man team. And they beat us out for Conwell and Swope in the portal this offseason as well. What Schertz is doing at Indiana State is amazing. They have one of the lowest funded programs in the conference but he gets the right players and he’s a winner. It took him 2 years to build a team that could compete and it took him 3 years to build a team that has a chance at making the NCAA’s.
I am not saying they are a one man team, but do those parts all join the team if the original domino does not fall? We will never know.
He was VERY successful for years in D2.
No it is not disrespectful! If we take Robbie Avila where is he the last two years?
Again wildly disrespectful to Schertz. Indiana State is not a one man team. And they beat us out for Conwell and Swope in the portal this offseason as well. What Schertz is doing at Indiana State is amazing. They have one of the lowest funded programs in the conference but he gets the right players and he’s a winner. It took him 2 years to build a team that could compete and it took him 3 years to build a team that has a chance at making the NCAA’s.
I am not saying they are a one man team, but do those parts all join the team if the original domino does not fall? We will never know.
What would Mullins be without Domask? I don’t understand this hypothetical exercise
this is how discussion happen. You say it is disrespectful to say he caught lightening in a bottle and those of us that don’t agree with you give what we think. This is a fan message board. And I have to admit I am pissed about Mullins so I am posting way too much today. I will continue to cheer on the Salukis and the Valley. And as long as they are not playing the Dawgs I will be watching the Trees hoping for a win.
Not sure how that press release is going to lure in good coaching candidates or recruits.
Listening to Leonard say nothing but good things about Mullins and then say he didn't win the top games (which is true) had the same effect.
When I read the article on SIUSALUKIS.com, the first thing I thought was wow that's kind of a backstabbing article to Tim Leonard.
I know people are upset about Mullins but he's not ready to be a head coach in D1 IMO. If we really want to excel, we need to improve that and I think it was the right decision. Had it been me I probably would have given him a short extension to see what Howard can do. All the outsiders sort of ripping this decision didn't have to sit through some of the bad in-game moments.
Sometimes tough decisions need to be made.
hahaha. He was 86-68 and brought back to life a program that was on life support after the last two losers destroyed the culture. He was young but he is absolutely a D1 head coach.
An average one at best. 49 - 45 in the MVC, 5 - 27 against the top 3 teams in the MVC. Portal flops. No recruits for next year. Consistently beat out on recruits. blah, blah, blah
SIU doesn't want to be average for the next 5 years. It's a shame it didn't work out. He'll make a good assistant somewhere while he learns. Would not be surprised to see him be a good HC someday.
DeVries and Schertz are exceptions as far as Wardle better look at his record at Bradley and look at his first 5 years compared to MullinsThe deck might be more stacked against SIU in the national landscape but when it just comes to the Missouri Valley, SIU is in the same boat as everyone else.
Josh Schertz went to Indiana State, one of the least funded programs in the Valley, and turned them into a winner. Drake was a dumpster fire for awhile before they hired Medved and DeVries. Bradley had to go through a full rebuild before Wardle got them to what they are. Bryan just wasn’t good enough to get SIU on that level and it doesn’t take 6 years to build a program.
I like Bryan and I was 100% on board with the hire but he just hasn’t been good enough. And SIU seems to want to get better here, not cheaper so that should be exciting for everyone that you have an athletic department that isn’t settling for mediocrity.
DeVries and Schertz are exceptions as far as Wardle better look at his record at Bradley and look at his first 5 years compared to MullinsThe deck might be more stacked against SIU in the national landscape but when it just comes to the Missouri Valley, SIU is in the same boat as everyone else.
Josh Schertz went to Indiana State, one of the least funded programs in the Valley, and turned them into a winner. Drake was a dumpster fire for awhile before they hired Medved and DeVries. Bradley had to go through a full rebuild before Wardle got them to what they are. Bryan just wasn’t good enough to get SIU on that level and it doesn’t take 6 years to build a program.
I like Bryan and I was 100% on board with the hire but he just hasn’t been good enough. And SIU seems to want to get better here, not cheaper so that should be exciting for everyone that you have an athletic department that isn’t settling for mediocrity.
Just checked Wardle. In his first 5 years at Bradley, he won Arch Madness twice. In 5 years of Mullins, SIU failed to make Saturday 4 times.
I was speaking more of overall while I appreciate the tournament results sometimes it is timing and match-up but I get the pointDeVries and Schertz are exceptions as far as Wardle better look at his record at Bradley and look at his first 5 years compared to MullinsThe deck might be more stacked against SIU in the national landscape but when it just comes to the Missouri Valley, SIU is in the same boat as everyone else.
Josh Schertz went to Indiana State, one of the least funded programs in the Valley, and turned them into a winner. Drake was a dumpster fire for awhile before they hired Medved and DeVries. Bradley had to go through a full rebuild before Wardle got them to what they are. Bryan just wasn’t good enough to get SIU on that level and it doesn’t take 6 years to build a program.
I like Bryan and I was 100% on board with the hire but he just hasn’t been good enough. And SIU seems to want to get better here, not cheaper so that should be exciting for everyone that you have an athletic department that isn’t settling for mediocrity.
Just checked Wardle. In his first 5 years at Bradley, he won Arch Madness twice. In 5 years of Mullins, SIU failed to make Saturday 4 times.
DeVries and Schertz are exceptions as far as Wardle better look at his record at Bradley and look at his first 5 years compared to MullinsThe deck might be more stacked against SIU in the national landscape but when it just comes to the Missouri Valley, SIU is in the same boat as everyone else.
Josh Schertz went to Indiana State, one of the least funded programs in the Valley, and turned them into a winner. Drake was a dumpster fire for awhile before they hired Medved and DeVries. Bradley had to go through a full rebuild before Wardle got them to what they are. Bryan just wasn’t good enough to get SIU on that level and it doesn’t take 6 years to build a program.
I like Bryan and I was 100% on board with the hire but he just hasn’t been good enough. And SIU seems to want to get better here, not cheaper so that should be exciting for everyone that you have an athletic department that isn’t settling for mediocrity.
I don't think Wardle is in the same coaching class as Devries, Schertz, or Jacobsen, but he has recruited good talent from overseas.
This does suck. Especially since it is one of our own. Here are a few questions.
1. Did Bryan meet the expectations people had when he was hired?
I don’t think so. The predictions that many on this site made upon his arrival have not played out. People were furious when Hinson was given an extra year. I remember one of the Mods saying the University would be better off without the Cook Warehouse Guy providing financial support. Threatening to run off Jerry Kill etc.. Bryan Mullins was the only guy to lead us back to the top of the mountain. He was the reason Loyola was so successful etc.. His connections to the Illinois Wolves etc.. He was a once in a lifetime talent who would not be around if we waited a year.
He was a great representative for the university and experienced as much success as the people before him but did not pull in the recruits we hoped for. Was probably not quite ready to match wits with the top coaches in the valley on an in game basis. There were a few holes in his game.
2. Were things looking bright moving forward? Not really. Who was going to be our 1st and 2nd options next year. Would we be able to compete at the top of the valley in the next two years? I would say probably not. The recruits we were in on for next year in many cases were being courted by low major programs. Not the power fives or top mid-majors
3. If this is as big of a mistake as some are saying then Bryan should be a candidate for other head coach jobs? With 5 years of experience under his belt vs none when he came here he probably won’t be on any lists for jobs at our level or highe for a while. He is probably looking at 5-10 years as an assistant before being considered for another head job.
The uncertainty moving forward is what sucks. Who will our next coach be? Will he be as active on campus and in the community as Mullins was? Will he be a better recruiter? Let’s hope so.
maybe he will rejoin Moser and learn like Moser did under Majerus and then prove he has the chopsThis does suck. Especially since it is one of our own. Here are a few questions.
1. Did Bryan meet the expectations people had when he was hired?
I don’t think so. The predictions that many on this site made upon his arrival have not played out. People were furious when Hinson was given an extra year. I remember one of the Mods saying the University would be better off without the Cook Warehouse Guy providing financial support. Threatening to run off Jerry Kill etc.. Bryan Mullins was the only guy to lead us back to the top of the mountain. He was the reason Loyola was so successful etc.. His connections to the Illinois Wolves etc.. He was a once in a lifetime talent who would not be around if we waited a year.
He was a great representative for the university and experienced as much success as the people before him but did not pull in the recruits we hoped for. Was probably not quite ready to match wits with the top coaches in the valley on an in game basis. There were a few holes in his game.
2. Were things looking bright moving forward? Not really. Who was going to be our 1st and 2nd options next year. Would we be able to compete at the top of the valley in the next two years? I would say probably not. The recruits we were in on for next year in many cases were being courted by low major programs. Not the power fives or top mid-majors
3. If this is as big of a mistake as some are saying then Bryan should be a candidate for other head coach jobs? With 5 years of experience under his belt vs none when he came here he probably won’t be on any lists for jobs at our level or highe for a while. He is probably looking at 5-10 years as an assistant before being considered for another head job.
The uncertainty moving forward is what sucks. Who will our next coach be? Will he be as active on campus and in the community as Mullins was? Will he be a better recruiter? Let’s hope so.
We are the Chicago Bears of the MVC….congrats. I know Bryan was average. He had some flaws. What 37 year old coach doesn’t. Could some of those flaws have been corrected? Maybe he was sat down and told you have these flaws and he said….”F U, I ain’t changing”. We are now just a laughing stock to the national media.
What do we offer that is going to attract a quality coach? History of being a good program 17 years ago? Looking forward to the cellar next year.
DeVries and Schertz are exceptions as far as Wardle better look at his record at Bradley and look at his first 5 years compared to MullinsThe deck might be more stacked against SIU in the national landscape but when it just comes to the Missouri Valley, SIU is in the same boat as everyone else.
Josh Schertz went to Indiana State, one of the least funded programs in the Valley, and turned them into a winner. Drake was a dumpster fire for awhile before they hired Medved and DeVries. Bradley had to go through a full rebuild before Wardle got them to what they are. Bryan just wasn’t good enough to get SIU on that level and it doesn’t take 6 years to build a program.
I like Bryan and I was 100% on board with the hire but he just hasn’t been good enough. And SIU seems to want to get better here, not cheaper so that should be exciting for everyone that you have an athletic department that isn’t settling for mediocrity.
I don't think Wardle is in the same coaching class as Devries, Schertz, or Jacobsen, but he has recruited good talent from overseas.
Completely agree that he is not in the same class, and I think he's a bit of a douche nozzle, but he has managed to reload despite defections.
I'm the current environment, that's huge.
(Inflammatory political snark)
Just checked Wardle. In his first 5 years at Bradley, he won Arch Madness twice. In 5 years of Mullins, SIU failed to make Saturday 4 times.
While he struggled in conference in his first 5 years (not unlike Mullins), he won 2 Valley tournaments, whereas Mullins has won a TOTAL of 2 games in 5 years in the conf tournament.
