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beadmedaddio
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To all those advocating Coach Beane as head coach?  I do not know Coach Beane and therefore I'm not going to say he should stay or go.  I would like to receive more positive feedback from those advocating his elevation to head coach.  I'm hearing he was responsible for a major part of the recruiting as one reason.  His family, who would probably leave if Beane were not retained, as a second.  And finally the quality of head coaches he has been an assistant for.  Positive reasons all.  But being a great assistant doesn't always translate to being a good head coach.  Can anyone say Clo was a good head coach?  It was all agreed he was a great assistant.   I'm not looking for a fight, simply more reasons to elevate Coach Beane.  Or simply expound on the reasons expressed.  And I'm still not convinced Chester Cheetos is out at the end of this season.

 

Thanks!

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Mr_Woogers
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Posted by: DR222

I still have the opinion that Anthony Beane Sr. should be promoted to Head Coach with a 3 year contract.  This should keep current players and commits in place.  I am sure he was directly involved in recruiting each of them.  The man has played for Gene Bess (career 1268-368), the all time winningest college men's basketball coach, and Dana Altman (career 628-329).  I am sure he learned something from their influence on how to win games!  In my opinion the only better option would be the availability of Bryan Mullins.  I am sure he would be smart enough to find a way to keep the players and commits in place.  Bruce Weber was smart enough to keep Rodney Watson on staff when he took the SIU head coaching position.

If there has to be a committee, it should be the current acting AD, Director Internal Operations, the 5 Associate AD's, and two other top manager's of the Athletic Department with specific MBB duties.  They have obviously earned their titles and know the requirements for their specific responsibilities.  The committee should then have to make its recommendation with the approval of the President and Chancellor.  Decisions like this is what are they getting paid to do.  Donors and Student Reps really have no expertise in hiring a coach and should not have search/interview duties.  If the Athletic Department makes the best decision, donors and students will show their support of that decision.

This group would currently include;

Jerry Kill, Acting AD

Liz Jarnigan, Senior Woman Administrator Internal Operations

Jeff Jones, Associate AD - Internal Operations

Mark Scally, Associate AD - Business Office

Tom Weber, Associate AD (FB1, MBB2, MG) - Communications

John Lock, Associate Director - Media Services (MBB1, BSB1)

Kevin Kendrick, Associate AD - Compliance and Student Services

Jason Fairfield Associate AD - Development

John Ihrig, General Manager - Saluki Sports Properties

 

https://siusalukis.com/staff.aspx

 

I'm all for giving Beane a shot.

If there IS a committee, it should include both Grey and Brown Dog.

https://www.pinterest.com/siusalukis/back-to-back-mascot-champs/

Also, I would include Tony Young, Darren Brooks, Jamaal Tatum, Kent Williams, Dr. James Lovvorn (for his knowledge of (red) birds), Dr. Clay Nielsen (for his knowledge of panthers, wolves/Ramblers, etc), a forestry prof. (Sycamores), an Animal Science prof. (Bulldogs etc.), a philosophy or history prof. (Crusaders), and a student with a gambling problem (Purple Aces). No one from the athletic department. 


   
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siudawgs
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I'm sorry, but anyone advocating Beane Sr. as the next head coach is off their meds. I'm all for trying to retain him as an assistant, but as head coach ... good lord. He has been part of this seven-year run of mediocrity, and not only has the product been underwhelming on the court, but SIU's recruiting (other than his helpful family ties) has also been mediocre. Hiring Beane would be akin to the Saluki baseball program inexplicably promoting Hendu (remind me, why is he still coaching that program again?!) despite the baseball program going nowhere in his many years as a top assistant.

Hire Mullins, Yaklich or someone else who has ties to coaching championship-level basketball and/or brings great intangibles to the table. It's hard to have faith in SIU decision-makers after what we've observed over the past decade, but I have to think they're smart enough to look externally for Hucky's replacement.

 


   
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beadmedaddio
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Posted by: siudawgs

I'm sorry, but anyone advocating Beane Sr. as the next head coach is off their meds. I'm all for trying to retain him as an assistant, but as head coach ... good lord. He has been part of this seven-year run of mediocrity, and not only has the product been underwhelming on the court, but SIU's recruiting (other than his helpful family ties) has also been mediocre. Hiring Beane would be akin to the Saluki baseball program inexplicably promoting Hendu (remind me, why is he still coaching that program again?!) despite the baseball program going nowhere in his many years as a top assistant.

Hire Mullins, Yaklich or someone else who has ties to coaching championship-level basketball and/or brings great intangibles to the table. It's hard to have faith in SIU decision-makers after what we've observed over the past decade, but I have to think they're smart enough to look externally for Hucky's replacement.

 

Hey siudawgs,

 

Obviously, since you have such a strong opinion, you know more about Coach Beane.  What are your reasons for the emphatic 'NO'?

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siudawgs
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Posted by: beadmedaddio
Posted by: siudawgs

I'm sorry, but anyone advocating Beane Sr. as the next head coach is off their meds. I'm all for trying to retain him as an assistant, but as head coach ... good lord. He has been part of this seven-year run of mediocrity, and not only has the product been underwhelming on the court, but SIU's recruiting (other than his helpful family ties) has also been mediocre. Hiring Beane would be akin to the Saluki baseball program inexplicably promoting Hendu (remind me, why is he still coaching that program again?!) despite the baseball program going nowhere in his many years as a top assistant.

Hire Mullins, Yaklich or someone else who has ties to coaching championship-level basketball and/or brings great intangibles to the table. It's hard to have faith in SIU decision-makers after what we've observed over the past decade, but I have to think they're smart enough to look externally for Hucky's replacement.

 

Hey siudawgs,

 

Obviously, since you have such a strong opinion, you know more about Coach Beane.  What are your reasons for the emphatic 'NO'?

I think my post already laid it out. If he were such a dynamic coach, he would have been more impactful on SIU's on-court and recruiting success over the previous seven seasons.

I like coach Beane and think he's a good guy to have on staff (especially considering family ties), but the head coach of your program is a much different standard.


   
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beadmedaddio
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Posted by: siudawgs
Posted by: beadmedaddio
Posted by: siudawgs

I'm sorry, but anyone advocating Beane Sr. as the next head coach is off their meds. I'm all for trying to retain him as an assistant, but as head coach ... good lord. He has been part of this seven-year run of mediocrity, and not only has the product been underwhelming on the court, but SIU's recruiting (other than his helpful family ties) has also been mediocre. Hiring Beane would be akin to the Saluki baseball program inexplicably promoting Hendu (remind me, why is he still coaching that program again?!) despite the baseball program going nowhere in his many years as a top assistant.

Hire Mullins, Yaklich or someone else who has ties to coaching championship-level basketball and/or brings great intangibles to the table. It's hard to have faith in SIU decision-makers after what we've observed over the past decade, but I have to think they're smart enough to look externally for Hucky's replacement.

 

Hey siudawgs,

 

Obviously, since you have such a strong opinion, you know more about Coach Beane.  What are your reasons for the emphatic 'NO'?

I think my post already laid it out. If he were such a dynamic coach, he would have been more impactful on SIU's on-court and recruiting success over the previous seven seasons.

I like coach Beane and think he's a good guy to have on staff (especially considering family ties), but the head coach of your program is a much different standard.

Thanks. Good to know.

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Mdogs1
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Beane would be a mistake he is currently the main assistant coach that Hinson listens too. If you want more of the same hire Beane . We need new blood. 


   
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Saluki 4 Life
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Guys, if you listen to Barry's interview you can tell unless there is a 3 game or 4 game winning streak in STL his run here is over.... with that in mind, we need to all prepare for Cook, McGill, and the recruits to decommit, the Beanes to leave.  Next year is going to basically be a clean slate, likely with the redshirts wanting to play so they stay.  Next year is going to suuuck... But long term, hopefully it will be worth it.


   
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siudawgs
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Posted by: Saluki 4 Life

Guys, if you listen to Barry's interview you can tell unless there is a 3 game or 4 game winning streak in STL his run here is over.... with that in mind, we need to all prepare for Cook, McGill, and the recruits to decommit, the Beanes to leave.  Next year is going to basically be a clean slate, likely with the redshirts wanting to play so they stay.  Next year is going to suuuck... But long term, hopefully it will be worth it.

Pretty much agree, although I'd be OK with an 11-2 type non-conference showing right out of the gate like Drake got with DeVries this year. 😀 


   
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Booby's
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Posted by: Saluki 4 Life

Guys, if you listen to Barry's interview you can tell unless there is a 3 game or 4 game winning streak in STL his run here is over.... with that in mind, we need to all prepare for Cook, McGill, and the recruits to decommit, the Beanes to leave.  Next year is going to basically be a clean slate, likely with the redshirts wanting to play so they stay.  Next year is going to suuuck... But long term, hopefully it will be worth it.

Where do we listen to said nausea? 

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Saluki 4 Life
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Posted by: Chester Cheeto
Posted by: Saluki 4 Life

Guys, if you listen to Barry's interview you can tell unless there is a 3 game or 4 game winning streak in STL his run here is over.... with that in mind, we need to all prepare for Cook, McGill, and the recruits to decommit, the Beanes to leave.  Next year is going to basically be a clean slate, likely with the redshirts wanting to play so they stay.  Next year is going to suuuck... But long term, hopefully it will be worth it.

Where do we listen to said nausea? 

it will be on the pregame obviously but Mike posts the interview on twitter the day of the game so you can listen before hand as well.  I always just get it from Mike Reis' twitter account.


   
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Bleacher Bum
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thanks for that info S4L. what did hinson do at the SLU game to force him to have to apologise? didn't hear about that.

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Mdogs1
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I feel bad for the players IF Hinson was doing his job we would be competing for a conference title .  These Seniors playing days will be over in 6 weeks without ever playing in  a postseason tournament.  


   
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Rockin' Dawg
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Posted by: Saluki 4 Life

Guys, if you listen to Barry's interview you can tell unless there is a 3 game or 4 game winning streak in STL his run here is over.... with that in mind, we need to all prepare for Cook, McGill, and the recruits to decommit, the Beanes to leave.  Next year is going to basically be a clean slate, likely with the redshirts wanting to play so they stay.  Next year is going to suuuck... But long term, hopefully it will be worth it.

You can't worry about things like that.  I'm sure the new coach's first priority will be to keep commits he thinks are worthy or bring in better talent.


   
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beadmedaddio
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I'm not slamming any players.  Having said that, why do people think that this is such a talented group?  Yes, by Chester Cheetos' standards it is, but I have never seen the talent level to get to the NCAA Tourney.  Mostly 5th - 9th level players on good teams.  None that should be on the Dukes of the world.  The conversation on this board is always that this team should be a lights out winning club.  I picked them 4th before the season started.  Now that's looking way too high.  Not tooting my own horn.  I simply never saw it. 

 

And I'm not using this as a reason to keep Chester.  It's his lack of recruiting prowess that is directly accountable for a sub-par team.  And we all know what a poor game coach he is.  Only 1-2 guys leaving that I would be sorry to see go.  But certainly nothing a good head coach/recruiter couldn't overcome in fairly short order.  

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