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beadmedaddio
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I saw today that the Utah Utes are giving all 85 scholarship players a new Dodge Ram pickup truck.  How can any non power 5 team compete on the recruiting trail?

I'm not sayin' -- I'm just sayin'!


   
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It will only get worse


   
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College sports as we knew it 10 years ago is dead.


   
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Posted by: @beadmedaddio

I saw today that the Utah Utes are giving all 85 scholarship players a new Dodge Ram pickup truck.  How can any non power 5 team compete on the recruiting trail?

Read about that - $6 million dollars worth of RAM pickups - not the bare bones model either - that includes insurance and lease. That works out to about $70,000 per player. A RAM Bighorn 4x4 with a V8 starts out at about $52,000, so these must be absolutely loaded with every possible option.

I guess there's no limit to what you can give a player now. Are prostitutes OK? Pitino thought so! LOL

 


   
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Are we acting like this kind of stuff didn't already happen? Lol


   
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Btw last year 2 of the final 4 teams were mid majors. And a school like Rutgers is landing top 5 recruits over Kansas/Duke. I don't think NIL is all that bad. Nothing wrong with athletes getting rewarded for all the money they help bring into the university. It's ok for change I promise it won't hurt you


   
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Are we acting like this kind of stuff didn't already happen? Lol

Yes we are. 85 players on a team did not get $70,000 trucks. A few stars like Reggie Bush got bribed, Rick Pitino's staff got prostitutes for Louisville players,  and Roy Williams' players at UNC had designated test takers for  Basketball Cliches 101, 201, and 301,  but nothing on this scale occurred.

 


   
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Posted by: @salukifan32

Are we acting like this kind of stuff didn't already happen? Lol

Yes we are. 85 players on a team did not get $70,000 trucks. A few stars like Reggie Bush got bribed, Rick Pitino's staff got prostitutes for Louisville players,  and Roy Williams' players at UNC had designated test takers for  Basketball Cliches 101, 201, and 301,  but nothing on this scale occurred.

 

Yes never on this scale but the big schools have always been paying for/bribing players. Now it seems almost like more schools are having a chance at these players. I guess I don't understand why people would be upset that these players got a new truck. Who cares? Good for them is what I think 

 


   
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Posted by: @salukifan32

Posted by: @mr_woogers

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Are we acting like this kind of stuff didn't already happen? Lol

Yes we are. 85 players on a team did not get $70,000 trucks. A few stars like Reggie Bush got bribed, Rick Pitino's staff got prostitutes for Louisville players,  and Roy Williams' players at UNC had designated test takers for  Basketball Cliches 101, 201, and 301,  but nothing on this scale occurred.

 

Yes never on this scale but the big schools have always been paying for/bribing players. Now it seems almost like more schools are having a chance at these players. I guess I don't understand why people would be upset that these players got a new truck. Who cares? Good for them is what I think 

 

I don't think folks are upset the players are getting these perks, the point is the playing field isn't remotely fair, the NIL is not being regulated and the NIL parameter's aren't even being defined. Schools that don't have the huge budgets or mega-super rich donors, I.E. mid majors can't compete for recruits and have trouble retaining players. Domask and Jones would not have left if Illinois and Purdue weren't paying them well.

 


   
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Posted by: @resaluki-88

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Posted by: @mr_woogers

Posted by: @salukifan32

Are we acting like this kind of stuff didn't already happen? Lol

Yes we are. 85 players on a team did not get $70,000 trucks. A few stars like Reggie Bush got bribed, Rick Pitino's staff got prostitutes for Louisville players,  and Roy Williams' players at UNC had designated test takers for  Basketball Cliches 101, 201, and 301,  but nothing on this scale occurred.

 

Yes never on this scale but the big schools have always been paying for/bribing players. Now it seems almost like more schools are having a chance at these players. I guess I don't understand why people would be upset that these players got a new truck. Who cares? Good for them is what I think 

 

I don't think folks are upset the players are getting these perks, the point is the playing field isn't remotely fair, the NIL is not being regulated and the NIL parameter's aren't even being defined. Schools that don't have the huge budgets or mega-super rich donors, I.E. mid majors can't compete for recruits and have trouble retaining players. Domask and Jones would not have left if Illinois and Purdue weren't paying them well.

 

Domask and Jones played here for 4 years. They left because of the extra covid year. If it wasn't for that, they would have spent their entire careers here. Our football team has multiple power 5 transfers and was ranked top five in the nation 3 weeks ago. Meanwhile, the basketball team is coming off its highest win percentage in 15 years. I guess I just haven't seen yet how it hurts mid majors so much

 


   
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Posted by: @resaluki-88

Posted by: @salukifan32

Posted by: @mr_woogers

Posted by: @salukifan32

Are we acting like this kind of stuff didn't already happen? Lol

Yes we are. 85 players on a team did not get $70,000 trucks. A few stars like Reggie Bush got bribed, Rick Pitino's staff got prostitutes for Louisville players,  and Roy Williams' players at UNC had designated test takers for  Basketball Cliches 101, 201, and 301,  but nothing on this scale occurred.

 

Yes never on this scale but the big schools have always been paying for/bribing players. Now it seems almost like more schools are having a chance at these players. I guess I don't understand why people would be upset that these players got a new truck. Who cares? Good for them is what I think 

 

I don't think folks are upset the players are getting these perks, the point is the playing field isn't remotely fair, the NIL is not being regulated and the NIL parameter's aren't even being defined. Schools that don't have the huge budgets or mega-super rich donors, I.E. mid majors can't compete for recruits and have trouble retaining players. Domask and Jones would not have left if Illinois and Purdue weren't paying them well.

 

I don't think Domask and Jones left for money, but we'll never know. They had their degrees and had a chance to play in better programs, so why not?

I absolutely think the NIL will hurt mids when it comes to recruiting, especially recruiting those 3 and 4 star players they might otherwise have a shot at getting.

 


   
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I don’t think the money offered hurt.  If I remember correctly, Domask has stated he is interested in college coaching.  With that in mind, he may have felt playing in another program for a year would provide him with more insight and a chance to see how others do things. If he wants to coach I look for him to be a graduate assistant somewhere next year.

With Jones, I read on a Purdue podcast that Painter said they targeted him to recruit.  That makes sense since they needed an athletic guard who can defend.  I think he will have a great year there.

I would have loved to have seen both return, but understand the allure of playing in the Big 10.  I also did not expect them to return so I was only mildly disappointed.  As I stated in another post, I was very disappointed when Verplancken left. I thought that was a big loss last year.  


   
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I don’t think the money offered hurt.  If I remember correctly, Domask has stated he is interested in college coaching.  With that in mind, he may have felt playing in another program for a year would provide him with more insight and a chance to see how others do things. If he wants to coach I look for him to be a graduate assistant somewhere next year.

With Jones, I read on a Purdue podcast that Painter said they targeted him to recruit.  That makes sense since they needed an athletic guard who can defend.  I think he will have a great year there.

I would have loved to have seen both return, but understand the allure of playing in the Big 10.  I also did not expect them to return so I was only mildly disappointed.  As I stated in another post, I was very disappointed when Verplancken left. I thought that was a big loss last year.  

Domask is going to play professionally before he gets into coaching. He will most likely be playing pro ball overseas next year.

 


   
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@resaluki-88 Domask playing professionally makes some sense since he will already have a graduate degree.  It may all depend on what offers he gets overseas or in the G-League.


   
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Posted by: @salukifan32

Are we acting like this kind of stuff didn't already happen? Lol

I had numerous friends who attended Illinois during the flying Illini days. One person told me that each player on that team drove a new Chevy Blazer to campus. Irvin Small and Lowell Hamilton walked around campus with two pit bulls as well. Super BA.

I believe many of the football players during the Mike White era received the same treatment. I do not believe the slush fund was utilized for this, but could certainly be wrong. 

 


   
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